I was just thinking we have SOOOOOOO many Aircraft builds that myself as a
Hopeless Armor Junkie sort of feels kinda left out so what about a Armor GB I
have A few ideas floating around maybe we can get a build going ???
say 4th 1/4 07 or 1st 1/4 08????? any comments
Heres a lil armor Whiff I did a while back
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So What Ya Say Gang ???
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I have been toying with one of those upgraded Panthers in Israeli markings.
Just something so right about German stuff being used by Israel.
Well, some time ago I did propose a "whaddya mean it doesn't fly?" GB for armour, ships, cars, figures etc.
You can of course sneak tanks into GB's here and there - the currents JSDF GB, the 3rd annual 1 Week GB (starts in 2 weeks!)
But yeah, I'd be up for that.
Me too
id give it a go too... iv a drawing for a Pz.IV with a 'Scud/Frog type' missile whichiv fancied building for ages ...
:ph34r:
And me.... :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
I've only ever had one idea for an armour build, I just don't know enough about it to get the ideas flowing. I'm wondering wether to builld that or do something with the Airfix Cheiftain & Scorpion/Scimitar I've got in the stash.
My idea was to mount a howitzer or AA turret on the Revell Faun Elefant tank transporter, similar to the 8x8 Czech Dana/Zuzana. Thinking about it, you could mount pretty much anything on it, SAM's, balistic missiles, MLRS type system. The cab & superstructure would need 'beefing up' a little!
Just thinking now, I could a mount mini launcher on the Scorpion/Scimitar or turn the Cheiftain into a Scud A type balistic missile launcher.
The juices are starting to flow.... :blink: :ph34r: :ill:
EDIT, grab hold of an Airfix Bloodhound kit & build the Cheiftain as a mobile SAM unit, hmmm.....
hmm..i like the mobile sam idea... def different... reminds me of the monster Soviet 'SA.4 Ganef'... lol
there was a proposal to mount the 'Blue Water' tactical missile on a tracked launcher, theres also a mention in the PRO. (no drawing tho, booo!) of a track mounted 'Thunderbird' AAM. (similar to 'Bloodhound') which would lend an air of credibility to your Chieftan idea B)
:ph34r:
Thanks Joe! Looking up Bloodhound, I've found that the Swedes were interested in a mobile version, Bloodhound Mk IV (Mk III was a nuke), but I can't find anything other than that. I've no idea what platform it would be mounted, wether wheeled or tracked, truck or tank, British or Swedish or how many Bloodhound it might carry. Might just have to guess!
QuoteThanks Joe! Looking up Bloodhound, I've found that the Swedes were interested in a mobile version, Bloodhound Mk IV (Mk III was a nuke), but I can't find anything other than that. I've no idea what platform it would be mounted, wether wheeled or tracked, truck or tank, British or Swedish or how many Bloodhound it might carry. Might just have to guess!
A Centurion could be British and Swedish and is OK for time frame
I've been tossing around the idea of mounting Hellfires on a Bradley A3... then taking it into the office to see if anyone notices :lol:
I've got a Faun Elefant in the stash, waiting to be whiffed...
How about a Panther or Tiger in Israeli service - suitably upgraded of course?
Regards,
Greg
QuoteA Centurion could be British and Swedish and is OK for time frame
Thanks Carlos, but it's a Cheiftain that's in the stash & I really want to start thinning it down!
QuoteI have been toying with one of those upgraded Panthers in Israeli markings.
Just something so right about German stuff being used by Israel.
I have to agree - and I guess I should read earler posts a little bit more carefully than making the same suggestion :dum: . Not to worry though since I'm really leaning towards the Israeli Tiger idea.
Now to consider sizes verses firepower verses everything else for the 88mm KwK 36 L/56, 105mm L7 and even 120-mm L11A (Does anyone have a good source of info for this comparison???). Also, by say the the late '60s would the armor of the Tiger need upgrading - I'm tending towards yes.
Regards,
Greg
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Thanks Carlos, but it's a Cheiftain that's in the stash & I really want to start thinning it down!
Then how about an Israeli Chieftain? After all, back in the '60s, Britain proposed a "package deal" whereby Israel would buy hundreds of obsolete Centurion tanks (which they did and thereby gave the British some desperately needed cash) and would also participate in the final stages of Chieftain development. The eventual plan was for the British to then also sell Israel the Chieftain as well as help set up a local assembly line for the tank in Israel.
In the real world, Israeli-British cooperation lasted for about three years. Two prototypes of the Chieftain tank were delivered to Israel. However, Arab states intervened. They threatened Britain with sanctions, with pulling their monetary reserves out of British banks, and other actions. Demonstrations were held in Arab capitals and British embassies were attacked. In November 1969 Britain withdrew from its Chieftain deal with Israel.
Now, what if either Britain withstood these protests and went ahead with the deal or even what if Israel simply reverse-engineered the copies they had (maybe with some carefully timed stealing of plans - ala Swiss Mirages). The end result being a Chieftain in Israeli colours.
Regards,
Greg
To help with people's ideas, remember these from Wyrmshadow:
Kaisertiger (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=11547&hl=)
Panther 3 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=11497&hl=)
E-100, Tiger 3 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=14855&hl=)
Regards,
Greg
Thanks Greg, it's a possibility for an easier build!
I had heard a story that the 120mm gun on the Chieftan was too powerful for the Isrealis.. It just blew other tanks to hell and gone. So much so that there wasn't much left for the tried and true isreali practice of salvage and re-use.
I'm up for that!!!!
Instead of making it a formal group build as we have so many on the go and pendingf. What about a dedicated armour thread that we can add to?
I have a few whiffs from the past that I could include.
Yep :P
Got lots of ideas, from sane to ridiculous :party:
There's one idea I've been doodling for some time, it's based on a S-tank, but it's got a low profile turret like that tested on the US T92 experimental tank. With the Strv-103's suspension, elevation could be dealt with, leaving the main gun fixed in the turret for traverse, only. It would definitely be a low-profile armored vehicle.
I actually have the trumpeter kit on the bench that I'm building as a modern Stug for the German army
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Some more ideas here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=9316&h=).
Regards,
Greg
Some more fuel for those ideas - a speculative Leopard 3:
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Regards,
Greg
I just found these
http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~piromo/PRAMODEL/T26.HTM (http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~piromo/PRAMODEL/T26.HTM)
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That Leopard 3 is WOW :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
QuoteI was just thinking we have SOOOOOOO many Aircraft builds that myself as a
Hopeless Armor Junkie sort of feels kinda left out so what about a Armor GB I
have A few ideas floating around maybe we can get a build going ???
say 4th 1/4 07 or 1st 1/4 08????? any comments
We're not doing one, because we know you'd win and we're gonna keep you down, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
But no seriously yeah, we're due for a non-flying GB. We had one way way way back but it was a little narrow in focus and we had limited participation. We have tons more members now though so it sounds like the time is right.
I'll pick this up again as I think it's a good idea to have a non-aircraft build fairly reguarly (once or twice year?), we definately have a huge bias to stuff that whizzes through the air. I've got to admit, aircraft are my favourite genre but I'd be quite happy to try my skills elsewhere.
Rather than a generic armour build, why don't we have a more defined GB like we do with aircraft? A couple of ideas I have:
Wheeled Armour. Wheeled tanks & other equipment, rather than tracked stuff.
BFG (Big F**k-off Gun). Anything with a huge weapon & we're not talking Ron Jeremy...... I guess we could include missiles too?
Anyone else any ideas?
Slightly OT, but as far as non-aircraft builds go didn't someone propose a Movies build? As far as I remember, most of the proposals were for cars.
Yeah I would go for a land moving thing :ar: :thumbsup: :salute:
:cheers: :drink:
I think everybody secretly builds tanks.....it looks like the same thing over at ARC.
I'm in ! I've got two or three tanks that I'm itching to do somat with.
:cheers:
QuoteRather than a generic armour build, why don't we have a more defined GB like we do with aircraft?
Don't define the build too narrowly, or you'll end up losing participants. I've got several ideas that would fit in with a generic 'armour build', but if it's going to be 'wheeled tanks' I'm out. For airplanes, you can get away with a narrow scope because there are so many airplane builders on the site.
I'm in! I know I say that about every GB but I really want an excuse to build my Hacked-up Humvee. It's my first really cool non-auto idea in awhile and I don't want it to go down the drain like all the others.
Jon :tank:
This sounds promising. I've got a couple of ideas already:
1) I've always wondered why the GAU-8, such an effective anti-armor weapon, was never fitted to a land vehicle. I figure it would probably fit just fine in the turret of an Abrams or a Leopard...
2) I have, or will have, tons of leftover missile launchers once I'm done with my next batch of helicopters (each of the new Revell Tiger kits come with enough weapons for three choppers, and I'm getting at least two or three!) With some work, I figure I can make a cradle to hang any one of these that I can add to the roof of a vehicle or the back of a truck.
3) Sweden's now-defunct coastal artillery had truck-mounted quad launchers for the RBS-15 anti-ship missile. I've got a bunch of cruise missiles in need of a home - SLAM-ER, Storm Shadow and TAURUS. Assuming I can find an appropriate truck chassis in 1/72, I think I could scratch build the launchers...
4) Germany's Flakpanzer Gepard is getting a little long in the tooth, I think - it's based on the Leopard 1 chassis, which isn't quite up to date. A new version is clearly in order - with a Leopard II chassis, and a better-looking radar system. Possibly bigger guns, too...
5) Then there's some purely silly ideas involving WWII camo and markings on modern armor. Leo 2A6 with King Tiger camo, anyone?
6) I've also been toying for some time with the idea of building a Tau Hammerhead tank in some kind of real-world camo. A very expensive proposition, though - I can get a 1/35 kit for the price of one of those...
SP
Sebastian, Revell do several truck kits that might fit the bill for TAURUS:
Use the tractor from the Faun Elefant Tank Transporter (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV3145) kit.
You could put a flatbed on the TPz 1 Fuchs (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV3139) or SpPz Luchs (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV3118)
Pushing it, or maybe for a single launcher, you could mount one on the Dingo (http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV3142)
PS, If you've got the money to do a Hammerhead, why don't you go the whole hog & get hold of a Tau Manta from Forgeworld? Only about £900..... :o :o :o :dum: :dum: :dum:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html)
QuoteDon't define the build too narrowly, or you'll end up losing participants. I've got several ideas that would fit in with a generic 'armour build', but if it's going to be 'wheeled tanks' I'm out. For airplanes, you can get away with a narrow scope because there are so many airplane builders on the site.
Hobbes, I don't think it matters to much if we get a low turnout, at least in the beginning. Hopefully, people will start to see that we whiff more than just aircraft & more modellers will join in when they were maybe though we were too biased to aircraft before. Also, it might persaude regulars to have a go at genres they don't normally get around to. Rather then start off looking for a high participation rate, maybe we should go ahead anyway & try to encourage people to join in in the long run, to the point of maybe having several non -aircraft builds a year?
I'm with Hobbes on this one - leave it at a generic armour build for now. Maybe in future go for a more specialised focus, but for now just leave it at armour.
Mossie, the Manta wouldn't qualify for this GB - it's an aircraft! (spaceship actually) :) Ok, so it comes fully loaded, but still.
Besides, right now my budget is nil - I bought a CH-53E (in 1/72, thank god) that I probably shouldn't have.
The tank transport looks fabulous - maybe a little too expensive for me for the time being, though, especially since I'll have to order it. The Luchs and Fuchs are available locally though - I'll see what I can come up with.
Hmmm. Here's an idea - a Goalkeeper turret for a tank. That'll combine both the Gepard replacement and the land-based GAU-8...
SP
Now that you mention the Faun Elefant: one of the prototypes was sold by the Bundeswehr and ended up as a wrecker.
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QuoteI think everybody secretly builds tanks.....it looks like the same thing over at ARC.
I'm in ! I've got two or three tanks that I'm itching to do somat with.
:cheers:
So, when do we have the first meeting of ABA - Armour builders Anonymous?? - Hi I'm Lancer and I build Tanks.. :banghead: :banghead:
WOOOOO!!!! Ground Systems!!! I think I might be able to get a few participants from the office on this one.
It'll give me a chance to finally build the "Humble Gun." (Named after the contracts guy in the office who suggested it, it's essentially an M88A2 without the upper works, but with a big honkin' gun on it (this guy did work on the Crusader after all).)
With the way the voting's going, the Armor build looks to be the first of the new year!
I'm not sure I can model it, but I envision an AFV with the variable suspension of a STRV-103 and the cleft turret of a US T92 experimental tank. However, this vehicle has the gun (105 mm, 120 mm?) fixed in the turret and uses the variable suspension to adjust elevation. I'm trying for hte smallest profile possible.
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Hmmm. Here's an idea - a Goalkeeper turret for a tank. That'll combine both the Gepard replacement and the land-based GAU-8...
You'd need to do some rearranging:
http://www.gdatp.com/products/Gun_Systems/...fenseSystem.htm (http://www.gdatp.com/products/Gun_Systems/goalkeeper/Goalkeeper30mmClose-InShipDefenseSystem.htm)
http://www.gdatp.com/products/PDFs/Goalkeeper.pdf (http://www.gdatp.com/products/PDFs/Goalkeeper.pdf)
Jon
My vote is still for the Armor GB for next year. The only reason the Hacked-Up Humvee is still on hold is for the GB.
Jon
Recently, I've been thinking of modifying one of these:
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by placing some sort of gun (say something like a 37mm or 47mm gun) between the two crew in a fixed mount to great a small (very small considering this was only around 2m in length!) tank destroyer.
Regards,
Greg
I don't know about you, but this gives inspiration for some sort of whiff (what, I'm not yet sure of):
The M50 Ontos:
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Regards,
Greg
QuoteRecently, I've been thinking of modifying one of these:
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by placing some sort of gun (say something like a 37mm or 47mm gun) between the two crew in a fixed mount to great a small (very small considering this was only around 2m in length!) tank destroyer.
Regards,
Greg
The Poles built a series of mini tank destroyers.
http://derela.republika.pl/tkd.htm (http://derela.republika.pl/tkd.htm)
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Jon
QuoteRecently, I've been thinking of modifying one of these
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by placing some sort of gun (say something like a 37mm or 47mm gun) between the two crew in a fixed mount to great a small (very small considering this was only around 2m in length!) tank destroyer.
Greg,
Here's an example (http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/07/stuff_eng_johansson_renault_ue.htm) with a 3.7cm gun. Mirage has kitted several variants of the Renault UE, including this german version (http://piezaapieza.net/images/MIR35307.01.jpg?osCsid=0b4553919df98073b7332f7f5a972c45) with a couple of machine guns. There's also a version with rockets!
Frank
Looking forward to this Greg, I always thought the Renault UE would be the perfect candidate for a bit of scalorama. Slap a 1/72 turret on it & you've got a French heavy tank.
Thanks Jon and Frank. In my mind though I was thinking something more low profile with the gun mounted almost S-tank style.
France - their late '30s aircraft may have been ugly, but I'll try to make their tanks look nice :lol: !
Regards,
Greg
Speaking of armour, has anyone seen this ugly creation - the Rheinmetall Gefas:
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Who needs weapons - just scare the enemy off with your looks!!!
Regards,
Greg
QuoteThanks Jon and Frank. In my mind though I was thinking something more low profile with the gun mounted almost S-tank style.
Greg, the Mirage Renault UE kits are "old school" kits, with separate top, bottom and sides. That's not too bad, though... until you see the sprue full of tiny, delicate individual track links, with giant attachment points. That's where I put the kit back in its box (I have three of these).
The Tamiya kit is far more expensive, but it looks much easier to build... and probably gets built more often than the Mirage kits!
Frank
(One Night at WAAF (Whif Armour Anonymous)) :ph34r:
Hi, my name's John & I'm an armour whiff modeller although I haven't whiffed armour in a few years :lol:
But seriously, I'd love to join the Build, I've got quite a few projects in the brainpan and a couple on the go as we speak that could easily slot into a GB.
Got a braille scale Hummel this Christmas and would just love to join....
I've got a 1/76 Black Prince and Tortoise that are begging to join this GB.
If we want the Armor GB next on the docket, as I do, we all need to place our votes in anthonyp's pol stickyied at the top of this forum.
Jon
I'm too lazy to look through the thread. Is there a Commandant for this GB?
QuoteIs there a Commandant for this GB?
I might - what exactly is involved?
Regards,
Greg
You have to drum up support, chivvy the entrants, encourage the slow, sticky and unsticky the relevant threads and sort out a winner - who will probly receive a prize from your stash.
OK, this one's the winner of the recompete! If someone doesn't step up by Friday, this one's going on the back burner and the Styrene Junkyard GB becomes January's!
What is the proposed time for this GB? I won't be able to start anything until early March Got some non what if stuff to get done first
Probably late January to late April.
Quote from: anthonyp on January 14, 2008, 05:22:57 PM
Probably late January to late April.
Cool beans Thanks for the info if it is a go,I will be building a M7E8 90mm That is an M7 Priest,based on a Sherman tank,with an E8 suspension system and I will be adding a 90mm barrel instead of the 105mm howitzer it used I may also add an M4A2 diesel engine deck to it Jeff Fontaine and I were talking about it one night on MSN chat
I've got two or three armor kits that need some sort of excuse to terminate :dalek:
Is this gb going to go on?
Quote from: anthonyp on January 14, 2008, 04:27:52 PM
OK, this one's the winner of the recompete! If someone doesn't step up by Friday, this one's going on the back burner and the Styrene Junkyard GB becomes January's!
If it's not a problem,I will head the GB I say problem because I don't have internet access every day because of my job Or maybe have myself and one other member to help run the GB?
If this one doesn't get a mod by the end of this week, it'll be pushed back to February, and the Styrene Junkyard will be taking this slot.
I'm taking part in both, so it matters not to me which one goes first.
GTX (greg) offered himself to moderate this GB. :huh:
And yet... he never PM'ed me about it.
No matter, since joncarrfarrelly has bravely stepped up to be the Commandant for this build (three "huzzah's" for Jon!).
I'll get with him via PM's and get this thing going.
I'm looking forward to this one.
If GTX and/or Panzer want to be co-Commandants, PM both me and Jon about it.
Hi guys,
I've PMed Anthony with proposed rules and I'm posting it here for your review and comment.
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Hi Anthony,
here are my proposed rules.
1. Subject - any scale, must be a 'What-If', visibly armored and primarily a ground vehicle of any era ... from the pre-Stone Age to the Far Flung Future. For the purposes of this build large terrestrial animals are considered vehicles, as long as they have armoring and armament that is not part of their natural form.
2. Wheels, tracks, skis or hover - skirted or anti-grav, it makes no difference. WIG is allowed for long-range cross-water transit on large machines, as are 'hoppers' and 'flying jeeps'. However, these are the only 'flying' vehicles allowed.
3. Amphibious vehicles are encouraged and don't forget about the SPs and APCs.
4. Monster Tanks and Land Battleships, yeah Baby. :wub:
5. Prizes, so far I've only figured out the 1st Prize - Academy 1/25th Jagdpanther. I'll ruminate on 2nd and 3rd.
As usual there is no limitation on the number of entries per modeler and the posting of in-progress photos is encouraged.
I will be creating a reference topic in which I will post some old oddball stuff from 'The Fighting Tanks Since 1916' by Jones, Rarey and Icks, 1933, The National Service Publishing Company.
The Secret Projects forum has some good stuff in the Army Secret Projects thread:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=unread;board=24.0
Please contact me with any questions or suggestions.
Now get out there and reform the battlefield. ;D
Cheers,
Jon
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Oh yeah, one thing I forgot, it doesn't have to be military... police and Mad Max type subjects are welcome.
Jon
Sorry about that folks - work got in the way again. Mind you, I am happy to assist and to put up second or third prize of a book on armoured warfare etc.
Regards,
Greg