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Title: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 26, 2007, 07:25:45 AM
Up to this week, I was thinking in IRIAF and light  grey/sand scheme. But after real J-10 delivery, I am not convinced anymore.

So, I need suggestions, please

Thanks,
Carlos.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 26, 2007, 07:36:01 AM
Lets begin with my proposals

Chinese (plenty of 3/4 colours camos)

Vietnamese (I do not know schemes, please help me)

Egypt (grey/green/sand camo used in Mirage-5 or low-viz greys but, in both cases, with those orange patches)

North Korea

Cuba

Albania

Any african country?
Title: J-7fs
Post by: cthulhu77 on October 26, 2007, 08:04:10 AM
Wooksta suggested a Libyan scheme for one of my Russian builds, and I thought that was a good idea. Lots of whacky camo options.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Captain Canada on October 26, 2007, 08:06:07 AM
Nice work, ysi ! Love the look of the nose. As for colours...no idea ! I'm kinda partial to the Cuban markings, tho.

:cheers:  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: B777LR on October 26, 2007, 08:06:53 AM
QuoteVietnamese (I do not know schemes, please help me)
Bare metal :salute:

Id like to see this plane with either the South African Air Force (cheetah scheme), or the North Vietnamese air force, set up against a USAF long nose F-4 :wub:  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: wolfik on October 26, 2007, 08:07:35 AM
I agree! wow...good work!  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Mossie on October 26, 2007, 08:22:02 AM
Gorgeous work Carlos!

If your looking for African markings, there are many that would look good, but I like the pale tan/green/charcoal camouflage on this Zaire MiG-21:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/14/171/0/1 (http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/14/171/0/1)
Interesting roundel too:
http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/...pays/zaire.html (http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/pays/zaire.html)

It's only a partial profile because they have only ever been photographed with their tails & engines missing.  Zaire inherited them from Serbia I think & it's not known if these MiG-21's ever saw combat with Zaire.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 26, 2007, 12:15:15 PM
Absolutely killer, Carlos! I cast my vote for North Korean. You don't see very many birds in those markings.
:thumbsup:
Brian da Basher
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Arc3371 on October 26, 2007, 01:47:43 PM
Zaire looks good or Katanga, Biafra and LTTE if you just want to make up a scheme  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: nev on October 26, 2007, 02:32:00 PM
It screams NMF to me  B)  
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Post by: Rafael on October 26, 2007, 02:59:16 PM
I loooove it!!! :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

Rafa
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Arc3371 on October 26, 2007, 03:33:13 PM
When i think of it it looks a lot like how I imagined the Croatian Super-7....  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: noxioux on October 26, 2007, 06:56:56 PM
Sweet!

I'll have to chime in on the behalf of a bare metal finish as well.  This thing would be gorgeous in a flashy cold war scheme (the U.S. kinds that were BMF with color trimmings).
Title: J-7fs
Post by: McGreig on October 27, 2007, 09:50:32 AM
That looks wonderful!  :thumbsup:  :bow:   It might just be a trick of the photo, but it looks like two MiG-21s combined - is it Airfix fuselage and Matchbox wings? And is the chin intake scratch built?

I would go for a Chinese scheme, simply because their red and yellow marking looks good on any of their white, grey or multi-coloured schemes.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: rafi on October 27, 2007, 10:55:53 AM
Swedish splinter camo (black green, dark green, light green and sand brown)?

Rafi
Title: J-7fs
Post by: BlackOps on October 27, 2007, 11:38:28 AM
Carlos, she's a sweet looking build! I think whatever you choose is going to look good. I kind of like the Zaire idea.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 29, 2007, 06:51:07 AM
QuoteThat looks wonderful!  :thumbsup:  :bow:   It might just be a trick of the photo, but it looks like two MiG-21s combined - is it Airfix fuselage and Matchbox wings? And is the chin intake scratch built?

I would go for a Chinese scheme, simply because their red and yellow marking looks good on any of their white, grey or multi-coloured schemes.
Fuselage: Airfix MiG-21
Wings: KP MiG-21
Nose: Hobbycraft F-8 1/100 but heavily worked.

;)  
Title: J-7fs
Post by: Sisko on October 29, 2007, 03:04:02 PM

I would definetly go with an African operator.

They would be the most likely to operate an aircraft of that type.
Title: J-7fs
Post by: fabe on November 01, 2007, 05:25:52 AM
Unfortunately the Zairean MiG-21 profile is wrong in reality all had the same camo as Yugoslav Jastrebs/Galebs. I think Bolivia would be a good choice since they have a lot of Chinese equipment and need to replace their T-33s. But I'd also love to see a heavily wheathered Sudanese version.
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 12, 2008, 07:07:57 AM
Finished in Aegyptian colour, configured for air defence/superiority armed with 2 x PL-2 and 2 x PL-10.
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 12, 2008, 07:11:12 AM
more ...
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Ed S on March 12, 2008, 08:00:41 AM
Looks good.  I like the color scheme with the hi-vis ID panels.

Ed
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Radish on March 12, 2008, 08:11:19 AM
Gloss White Chinese?

Camouflaged (tan, green, dark green over light  blue) Vietnamese?

Pale Grey Chinese?

What about an F-16-type, Pakistan? :wub:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: kitnut617 on March 12, 2008, 09:10:59 AM
Man! that's a sweet looking aircraft Carlos!  Love the new nose, that really sets the stage.  And there's something about the canopy that I really like, looks sort-of F-86D-ish (I've always liked that canopy)

Robert
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Scooterman on March 12, 2008, 12:16:41 PM
NICE!
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Post by: lancer on March 12, 2008, 12:33:43 PM
Damm, that is stunning!!!! Amazing finish Carlos, one hell of a build!!
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Post by: McGreig on March 12, 2008, 01:14:48 PM
The finished article looks really good in those colours  :wub:. A great result from bashing together two very old kits!
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Brian da Basher on March 12, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
Nice one, Carlos! Those day-glow orange panels are very eye-catching.

Brian da Basher
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Post by: John Howling Mouse on March 12, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Oh yes, this is JUST right!  I love what you come up with.  You have a sort of consistent creative flair that makes me feel like I exist in a myopic daze by comparison yet gives me inspiration to think out of the box at the same time.

Wonderful workmanship.

:wub:   :wub:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Captain Canada on March 12, 2008, 08:54:10 PM
Wicked ! That's gotta be one of the models of the year.....great job, Carlos ! Love the nose, the paint, the weapons load....just looks the part. That head on pic really does it for me.....what a tough looking aeroplane !

:wub:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 14, 2008, 08:23:31 AM
Hi people,

Thanks for your nice comments. I always wanted to paint a plane with those orange panels mmmm :wub:

By the way, Captain, that idea of a model of the year ....

'The Whiff of the year' sounds good to me. I am not speaking about this particular model but in kind of a special GB.

:mellow: :unsure: :wacko:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Supertom on March 14, 2008, 10:04:49 AM
Fantastic work, Carlos!  Now how about a backstory?

Also, I noticed your work on the nose, layering plastic on it then sanding it to shape.  Do you think you can do a step-by-step the next time you have a simlar project?  I was never very good at that sort of thing.
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: John Howling Mouse on March 14, 2008, 07:05:36 PM
Quote from: Supertom on March 14, 2008, 10:04:49 AM

Also, I noticed your work on the nose, layering plastic on it then sanding it to shape.  Do you think you can do a step-by-step the next time you have a simlar project?  I was never very good at that sort of thing.

Ditto (please and thank you)
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: BlackOps on March 14, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Carlos, this is a fantastic end result!  :wub: 
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Mossie on March 15, 2008, 07:04:29 AM
Lovely build Carlos & a very clean paint finish! :ph34r:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Thorvic on March 17, 2008, 12:18:36 PM
and for those with more money than sense...

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,17500.0.html (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,17500.0.html)

Think YSI has a much cheaper and better option  ;D
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on March 17, 2008, 01:18:42 PM
Like the others say really great work, although - definitely NOT a crit - I'd have simply left-off the weaps  and let the work superb conversion speak for itself.

Ian
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 18, 2008, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on March 17, 2008, 01:18:42 PM
Like the others say really great work, although - definitely NOT a crit - I'd have simply left-off the weaps  and let the work superb conversion speak for itself.

Ian
You are probably right. In fact, I not totally happy with front Sidewinder/PL-2A. :banghead:
Title: Re: J-7FS
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 18, 2008, 02:11:16 PM
This model was started long time ago (2005, still inside cupboard) then I had no idea of the existence of this forum, so I have no pics. But pics in thread's top can help.
Well the nose comes from Hobbycraft F-8 1/100. The point is that MiG fuselage does not mate with Crusader's fuselage at all. So I cut both parts to yield an appropriate total length, and then added Evergreen styrene.
Pieces in top are to cover F8's cockpit hole.
In bottom, front wheel sides, a series of styrene strips (1mmx4mm) cut in acute wedge shape were glued perpendicularly to fuselage surface to form the rear part of intake.
After this, noticeable steps in nose's sides was faired with those white 'chiks'.
Then I considered that the intake looked too small, so I added 3 thin (0.25mm) styrene strips around intake.

Then lots of SR to get the shape. IMHO when big areas or volumes have to be filled, putty is not the answer and I prefer styrene and sometimes only dry glue.

Sorry for my English :banghead: