When the Meteor and the Tiffie are finished this week, I'll be taking a break from building for the RAF 100 theme for a few weeks to make a start on this:-
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Spent quite a lot of time with our Richard coming-up with camo schemes for Nationalist Spanish & Italian 262's last year. It may not be exactly this scheme when it's finished, there's a couple of others I'm very tempted to use, but each scheme IS accurate and well documented on other airframes. I wrote a whole 'thesis sized' essay for the 262 in Spain & Italy and their participation in the second Desert War (1944-48) some of which Iposted here on the Alternative History page.
Anyhoos, I'll be using this:-
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As my 'raw material' and will probably be making a start sometime in the next two weeks or so. As ever when I get-around to remembering to post-up progress shots, I'm happy to take all pot-shots, criticisms and questions.
Ian
YES!! YES!!
*stands on sidelines cheering*
Gorgeous subject and I have total faith in your ability to pull it off Ian :thumbsup:
I have a few of those kits in my stash and will be watching this build with great interest to see how well this Tamiya kit goes together. :thumbsup:
Matrixone
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I know I said that I was taking a break to finish some Sci-Fi builds and some commission builds but I need to take a break from my break.
So I'm doing this one baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems I'm not the only one doing a Gekko inspired build ;D
Look forward to your build!
Seven-and-a-half hours later !
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Not a 'shake and bake' build by any means and at this point, the wings are only pushed into place. left the gun cover off for now, as it's easier to install the nose gear, also I wanted to add a lot more nose weight.
Ian
Get it done while you can............................no time when the new 1:1 rugrat arrives. :drink: :party:
That Gekko blokes got a lot to answer for. :thumbsup:
Some self explanatory progress:
Construction finished - I've left-off the intake fronts as they are going to be white and the rudder..... because I forgot it !
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Got some time this morning so preshaded the panel lines in the same way as the Meteor:
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Thanks for looking.
Ian
Coming along nicely ;D :thumbsup:
Looking forward to this Ian
Another five minutes of spraying (and twenty minutes cleaning-up ! :angry:), here's what I have:-
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As you can see the white panels on the upper and lower wings are different sizes, just to add interest and I believe that some of the 110's had this stile earlier in the war. Also very early on decided NOT to have the white wing tips follow the panel line, looks more 'aggressive' with them at 90deg to the C/L, doncha think ?
Hopefully, tomorrow, I can get the Grigio Mimetico (Bluey Grey !) on the underside.
Ian
I really love the way you have done your preshading. You are a great teacher :bow:
Humbrol 63 Sand with a light overspray of Humbrol 94 brown/yellow. The undersides are Xtracolour ADC Grey
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Ian
Cool I may very well steal that paint job for the Bushmaster. I won't ,of course do as good a job. ;D ;D :wub:
Already a work of beauty, Ian!
Nice paint work, Ian! It's always a treat to see one of your updates.
:thumbsup:
Brian da Basher
This is looking good.
The next step is going to really test your mettle as a modeller.
Is going to look awesome when done.
Been on the masking now for three days and only half done :banghead:..... I'll post some pics when I'm done..... be afraid, be very afraid !
Ian
Four days of masking later.... This is the view, looking into the abyss from the edge of "the Cliffs of Insanity" :banghead:
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Ian
That's inconcievable ;D :thumbsup:
just the 4 days then...? :banghead:
Wow I thought I had it bad masking but mine is like DDAY stripes compared with that :o
Mein Messerschmit izt full off eelz?
Ohhh G*d what have I done :blink:
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Humbrol 186 'Brown' & Xtracolour 'Forest Green'
Ian
Ahhhh..... that's better !
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Almost like I meant it ! ;D
Ian
:wub: ahhhhh yes! ;D
Koooool. That's how that's done.
Wow, nice job and now I'm feeling like trying that method.
Looks fan-fricken-tastick!
Really an excellent looking paint job :wub: A super learning experience :thumbsup: thanks :bow:
Beauty job on the masking Ian :thumbsup: Oh, and to answer your PM
QuoteThere are countless ways of attaining greatness, but any road to reaching ones maximum potential must be built on a bedrock of respect for the individual, a commitment to excellence and a rejection of mediocrity
Nice camo. You're masking worked great.
Ed
I thought you'd put the grey paint on a bit thick, then realised it was blutack. :banghead:
Looks super.
Is it straight from the box apart from the scheme? Why not put it into the nationals Competition?
I've a SFTB Spitfire in Biggles colours going in, and probably a Crusader Hurricane too. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Radish on June 04, 2008, 07:43:21 AM
I thought you'd put the grey paint on a bit thick, then realised it was blutack. :banghead:
Looks super.
Is it straight from the box apart from the scheme? Why not put it into the nationals Competition?
I've a SFTB Spitfire in Biggles colours going in, and probably a Crusader Hurricane too. :thumbsup:
Well coming from you, Terry, I'm seriously humbled. Remember old friend there's a long way to go yet and almost limitless opportunity to scr*w-the-pooch. On to the decals.....
Ian
That's a beauty scheme, Ian! You're well on your way to creating another prize-winner!
:bow:
Brian da Basher
:thumbsup: excelent paintjob :bow: :bow: :bow:
Quote from: Radish on June 04, 2008, 07:43:21 AM
a Crusader Hurricane too. :thumbsup:
I like :wub: :wub: :wub:
That is magnificent Ian. how did you do the masking?? Last time I tried something like that the blue tac almost ruined the model. Please enlightnen ne.
I bet your heart was racing as you pulled the masking off!
I know mine does.
Looks bloody amazing :wub:
So, do you go into these projects knowing how good it's going to become or is it as much a pleasant surprise to you as it is to us?
:bow:
Decals on.... weathering next.
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Ian
Quote from: lancer on June 05, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
That is magnificent Ian. how did you do the masking?? Last time I tried something like that the blue tac almost ruined the model. Please enlightnen ne.
Hey Lance, the only 'special preparation' I made was to brush-paint two coats of Klear/Future over the whole topside and left it o'night before adding the Blu-Tack.
Sisko - "I bet your heart was racing as you pulled the masking off!"
H*ll yes !
JHM - "So, do you go into these projects knowing how good it's going to become or is it as much a pleasant surprise to you as it is to us?"
They always look really great in my minds-eye. However when they're built, if thay are half-way to what I imagined, then I'm happy !
Ian
Hubba, hubba, and, er, HUBBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Dangit, I wish I had read that before I started painting :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Thats looking really good Ian! :cheers:
Matrixone
Ian, you have the gift! Beautiful job :thumbsup: Really love seeing your progress shots and the finale is always killer! :bow:
A beautiful german girl in italian style :bow:
Super !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hotte
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Emphatically.
Daryl J.
B*gger !
Ever had one of those days ?... 'course you have. Picture the scene, scorching hot afternoon - well at least it was in sunny Merseyside - Mrs & Baby Hunter-Gatherer (now renamed Toddler-Gatherer), have gone out to the local park, all my chores are done and I'm standing in front of my 'Schwalbe' with airbrush clutched eagerly in my paw......
Time to apply the final matt varnish coat (Humbrol MattCote). Ten mins later all done. Twenty mins later, it's still shiny, another ten mins, still no change, but the varnish is dry. OK, no biggie, try again with a different bottle...... same performance/result. An hour later - after spraying some Olive Drab at a 'real world' model, and cleaning-up, one more try with a third bottle of MattCote.
Yep you guessed it - still shiny :banghead:
I'm guessing it's something to do with pigment separation & too much thinning, but could you believe the same thing happenting three times..... Ahhh well, off to the LHS on Thursday to re-stock.
B*gger !
Ian
Ian,
My last model that I finished (Bf 109G-10) I used Humbrol MattCote on it and also had the same sort of trouble with it being too shiny, after a couple of times of re-spraying it did not get much better so I tried using Mr. Super Clear Flat (from a spray can) and it worked quite well.
I prefer using the Humbrol flat clear but the last bottle of the stuff I bought does not work quite as well as it once did so I won't be buying any more of it.
Matrixone
Oil wash - heavily thinned raw umber into all panel lines to give the whole a 'sepia' tone. The recesses for the control surfaces including the leading edge slats were given a wash of Paynes Grey to emphasise the shadow effect.
Oil wash on:-
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Then leave it for twenty-four hours and remove with an old t-shirt
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Still not matted down, so thought I'd post these shots in lieu. Hopefully I can get this finished over the next week. In the meantime it's on to assembling the Tamiya Marder APC for the GB.
:tank:
Ian
Is the old T-shirt soaked in any solvent?
Tiny, and I do mean tiny amount of regular thinners. Once a patch of t-shirt gets too dirty, move on to another, otherwise you just end-up smearing/mixing the oil tones. The key is to leave the wash to settle (minimum) overnight.
Ian
WOW and BEAUTY what a lesson :bow: :bow: Such an excellent learning experience. I will now go try to redo my last efforts..... or take up fence building ,knitting seems too complex :wub: :wub:
Well, there ya go, Ian: setting up a whole new class of excellence on the ol' What If site! :bow:
PS: By far, the finest matte clear I've ever used is Testors Acryl Flat Clear. Thinned just a touch with tapwater and blasted at 45 PSI from a distance.
Will take the shine off of anything and I don't think it cares what kind of enamel, paint, lacquer is underneath, either.
Ian, this is truly magnificent! :wub:
Barry is right, Testors Model Master Acryl flat clear is good stuff!
Your a very brave man Ian!
Great job on a very difficult camouflage scheme! :thumbsup:
:cheers:
Richard.
It's Back !
No pics yet, because, (and in no particular order):-
1: I only matted it down yesterday when ALL the children and Mama-Gatherer were sleeping (Shhhhh don't tell 'em)
2: With three minutes to go before I HAD to leave for work this evening, I was still struggling with (VERY) unco-operative lycra thread, an awkward model and some Cyano glue !
3: It's 0200 here and I'm at work !
4: I'm sure that after all this time you lot won't mind waiting till it's completely finished. I hate rushing a model that I've invested so much time and effort in, just to meet some self-imposed deadline. I've done it before and it's a sure-fire way to scr*w the project-up for absolutely no reason !
Pics to come..... patience my friends, patience.
Ian
Woohoo it lives!!!
D
mmmmmmmmmmmm.......................................havent you got some sailors to look after?? :wacko:
Thats not a bad build.....in the right light with yer eyes screwed up. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:
>Then leave it [the oil wash that brings out the panel lines] for twenty-four hours and remove with an old t-shirt.
Is the old T-shirt soaked in any solvent?
Tiny, and I do mean tiny amount of regular thinners. Once a patch of t-shirt gets too dirty, move on to another, otherwise you just end-up smearing/mixing the oil tones.<
**MY** question is....do you have to take your T-shirt all the way OFF to do this? :wacko:
Quote from: sequoiaranger on July 27, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
**MY** question is....do you have to take your T-shirt all the way OFF to do this? :wacko:
Actually I use Mrs Hunter-Gatherer's T-shirt whilst she's still wearing it...... on these occasions I dont get too much modelling done :wacko:..... Hmmmm maybe this explains the recent arrival of Baby-Gatherer :blink:
Ian
^^^^
This is a great idea.
BTW: the Me-262 is just perfect
:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
All done:
Kit: Tamiya 1:48
Paint: Tamiya aerosol acrylic, Humbrol & Xtracolour enamels
Decals: Kit & Sky Decal
Extras: None
Messerschmitt Me262-2A
79 Squadrigia, 1 Stormo, ANR
Tunis (South) Airfield
1946
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My thanks to all the really positive and encouraging comments throughout this build, really appreciate it.
Ian
That's a beauty. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ed
Awesome stuff mate!!!!
:thumbsup:
I love seeing your stuff.
Splendiferous!! :wub:
Mes arent normally my thing, but that is a beautiful build Ian! :bow: :bow: :bow:
Yet another Hunter-Gatehrer masterpiece! The camo and markings look perfect!
:bow:
Brian da Basher
All that and a baby, excellent time management ;D
Just too cool :mellow: :bow: :bow:
YOWZER!!! top shelf work as usual!! :thumbsup:
:tank:
A beautyful ANR Messerschmitt !!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent camo!
Hotte
A real Beauty Ian! :thumbsup: :wub: :thumbsup:
Fantastic build Ian. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I like you weathering style too, very effective and seemingly simple to apply.
:cheers:
Tasty Stuff Ian,
A credit to both you & Richard.
Regards,
Mav
Looks the part mate, great job! :thumbsup: :ph34r: :thumbsup:
That looks excellent - well done! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Only one word for it - Gorgeous! :wub: :wub:
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That right there is the money shot :bow: :bow: :bow:
Just ... Perfect :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
ZowDoggy!!!!!
That is great!
Daryl J.
:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
nuff said
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yummy!
Beautiful. 'Nuff said. :thumbsup:
:o
I stand in both awe and envy of your fantastical skills!
You are teh l33t3st!
D
Absolutely magnificent - out of my league! :bow:
A masterpiece! :mellow: This is the kind of work that inspired me as a kid to get into the hobby. :thumbsup: :cheers:
"....and the first prize in the Profiles Group Build goes to..."
And here I was, getting all fired up to begin my own Profiles GB entries today----no point now as there will be no worthy competition for you, Ian! :o
Wow. Gotta go back and have another looksee or three. :bow: :thumbsup: :wub:
Thats great, looks absolutely gorgeous :thumbsup:
Bex
P.S: Gekko is a very naughty boy with his prolific profile creation :dalek:
Quote from: John Howling Mouse on August 02, 2008, 07:07:09 AM
"....and the first prize in the Profiles Group Build goes to..."
And here I was, getting all fired up to begin my own Profiles GB entries today----no point now as there will be no worthy competition for you, Ian! :o
Erm, Barry...... It's NOT in the GB, it was started waaaayyyy before, as a simple tribute to Richards' skills and efforts, the MiG and the Marder are for the GB ! - Everybody thanks so much for the very kind comments, as ever they inspire me on to the next project...... Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.
IanPS - Anybody heard from Richard ?
Quote from: John Howling Mouse on August 02, 2008, 07:07:09 AM
PS - Anybody heard from Richard ?
No, hes not been seen over on BM either for a while, even more so as Ive just ordered decals to build my Wyvern which he profiled for me :bow:
Bex
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on August 02, 2008, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: John Howling Mouse on August 02, 2008, 07:07:09 AM
"....and the first prize in the Profiles Group Build goes to..."
And here I was, getting all fired up to begin my own Profiles GB entries today----no point now as there will be no worthy competition for you, Ian! :o
Erm, Barry...... It's NOT in the GB, it was started waaaayyyy before, as a simple tribute to Richards' skills and efforts, the MiG and the Marder are for the GB ! - Everybody thanks so much for the very kind comments, as ever they inspire me on to the next project...... Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.
Ian
Ah yes, so you promise not to do as well on your actual "entries" then???? I'm doomed, I tells ya! Doomed!
Instant Legend!
Superb :bow: