Here is a project that hangs on the fringes of my workbench. From time to time I revisit it and make a little more progress on it. It is the Monogram 1:72 B-36 with a shortened fuselage with wing(s) from the AMT 1:72 XB-49 being mated to it. Sort of a YB-60 concept but the engines will be internal. I'm thinking high speed high altitude recon platform. Since I was cleaning off the bench I thought I share it with you. Maybe someday I'll get serious with this project.
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Looks impressive bttb :wub: :thumbsup: :cheers:
Now that's an interesting idea :thumbsup:
Just mention the B-36 and you've got my attention, but this concept takes it to the next level! I hope you'll keep working on this one and share your progress with us Hawkeye!
Brian da Basher
Nice idea and nice pix but I think it needs to be in a larger scale. At 1:32 it would BE the fringes of your workbench ;D
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Very nice....but I don't get it ? The wings look the same to me !
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Quote from: Captain Canada on April 29, 2008, 05:08:34 PM
Very nice....but I don't get it ? The wings look the same to me !
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B-36
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B-49
Jon
Now that's a clear precise answer John. Thanks. :thumbsup:
Looks like a great idea. Are you going to sweep the tail surfaces as well? It looks like it could be part of the RAF's "V" bomber series.
Ed
Quote from: Ed S on April 30, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
Looks like a great idea. Are you going to sweep the tail surfaces as well? It looks like it could be part of the RAF's "V" bomber series.
Ed
That is the plan. I've even toyed with doing a twin tail or T-tail configuration. Nothing like re-engineering the whole thing! A nose mounted radar too! This will slick down the lines even more.
It will look much like the British V-Bombers as well as the Russian monsters. Hence its project name "Thirtysixski"
That looks cool. I think you should mate a modern day B-52 front to it and get rid of the 40's style glass nose and canopy.
Mark
Very impressive! Keep working on it, you'll feel better and keep us happy. ;D Reminds me of my B-17/KC-135.
Eddie
Wow that's totally badass looking! Perhaps go with a t-tail to make sure NOBODY mistakes it for a YB-60
Quote from: MarkH262 on April 30, 2008, 12:24:43 PM
That looks cool. I think you should mate a modern day B-52 front to it and get rid of the 40's style glass nose and canopy.
Mark
Or maybe a fighter type canopy like a B-47.
Ed
An OPEN COCKPIT ala WW1!
Exits amidst a hail of thrown objects and cries of 'Boo!'. Thinks to self 'lucky I didn't go with my first idea for a navy style flying bridge...'
The Wings look great, sort of makes it look like a combination of the B-36 an the B-46. Nose would need to incorporate a Radar instead of gun turret and maybe change the canopy to possibly a Vulcan or Valaint style teardrop blister.
G
I'm going to be the dissenter here, the canopy of the B-36 is one of its main identifiers and one of its coolest features.
Replacing the domed canopy with a stepped windscreen, fighter-plane bubble or V-bomber blister would be to exchange the unique for the commonplace and eliminate much of the aircraft's charm.
The furthest I'd personally go would be to possibly polish out some of the framing to reduce the number of panels.
Jon
Quote from: puddingwrestler on April 30, 2008, 09:45:10 PM
An OPEN COCKPIT ala WW1!
And spats, T-tail and Canadian markings!
Exits amidst a hail of cheers from certain members of this forum! ;D
I'm with Jon on the canopy, but I do agree the nose would need to be reprofiled to something a bit sleeker, something like a B-47 nose. Maybe a small bombaimers window in the lower half. It wouldn't need a radar though, it's got a honking great big one just below the forward fuselage and is also just part of the B-36 profile that identifies it as such.
I'd keep the canopy as is, maybe modify the nose to the configuration of the B-60, similar to the B-47. I'm wondering though about the tail. With the new wings, they may look a bit out of place as is. Something more B-60ish might work, though I'm not sure where you could get them from unless you scratchbuilt them. B-52 might work...
Quote from: Hawkeye on April 30, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Ed S on April 30, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
Looks like a great idea. Are you going to sweep the tail surfaces as well? It looks like it could be part of the RAF's "V" bomber series.
Ed
That is the plan. I've even toyed with doing a twin tail or T-tail configuration. Nothing like re-engineering the whole thing!
How's about a V tail, a la Dale Brown's Megafortress ?
Ian
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on May 01, 2008, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: Hawkeye on April 30, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Ed S on April 30, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
Looks like a great idea. Are you going to sweep the tail surfaces as well? It looks like it could be part of the RAF's "V" bomber series.
Ed
That is the plan. I've even toyed with doing a twin tail or T-tail configuration. Nothing like re-engineering the whole thing!
How's about a V tail, a la Dale Brown's Megafortress ?
Ian
You mean like this?
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I built the "Old Dog" out of two Revell 1:144 scale B-52s. I have more pictures around somewhere...it turned out real sweet.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on May 01, 2008, 06:29:26 AM
I'm going to be the dissenter here, the canopy of the B-36 is one of its main identifiers and one of its coolest features.
I have to concur with Jon. If you made this thing look too modern, it would totally loose the charachter of the time period.
But any way it goes, this is one I'd really like to see completed!
When I do a kitbash I try to use as much of the kit as possible. The tail and horizontal stab will be reused though reshaped. Like here where I used a stab to make a canard for another project.
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A little cutting and splicing.
The canopy will remain pretty much as is, but I will remove most of the "greenhouse" from it. The nose will be a combination radome with limited glass area.
I really like your Old Dog! I did one myself, from a later book.
Eddie
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Quote from: Eddie M. on May 03, 2008, 06:31:27 AM
I really like your Old Dog! I did one myself, from a later book.
Eddie
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I have two 1:72 B-52 kits set aside to do one up in full detail. It is just a matter of getting motivated to do it. Probably wouldn't hurt to read through the books again to spark interest again in the project.
Quote from: Hawkeye on April 30, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
I've even toyed with doing a T-tail configuration.
Um, did somebody say "T-tail"?????
When I first saw the subject title of "B-36 kitbash" I thought, "Well, that's something you don't see everyday!"
As a project in this scale, your idea even
sounds intimidating but I sure hope you keep at it. Take the plunge!
And keep us posted....
Imagine a B-36 with turboprops & high bypass turbofans to improve it's performance & payload.
I think that's McColms department.
Turboprops with pusher propellers could be tricky. Where would you route the exhaust? Maybe through the centre of the spinner?
Quote from: zenrat on June 22, 2023, 04:32:52 AMI think that's McColms department.
Turboprops with pusher propellers could be tricky. Where would you route the exhaust? Maybe through the centre of the spinner?
It'd be a bit complex to achieve but would be do-able, & would be your best option, too, I think.
I tried building something similar to this, using a B-36 and the YB-35
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This is what I'm working on at the moment.
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I found this in the book Origins and Evolution Boeing B-47 & B-52
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Another one with pylon mounted turbo-props!
I do like that idea. :thumbsup: