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GROUP BUILDS => 2009 Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => Flying Boat, Sea Plane, and Amphibian Group Build => Topic started by: sandiego89 on March 13, 2009, 02:44:41 PM

Title: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: sandiego89 on March 13, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
I'm in! How about a Seadart?  1/72 scale.  Took a long hard look at the Mach 2 Sea Dart hanging in my son's room and I am going to do a makeover as the moderator said "phoenix form the ashes" projects are welcome. 

Planning for an operational version in the late 50's or early 60's.  Perhaps:
F-102 style canopy
some minor area ruling of the rear fuselage
armament- probably AIM-9
paint- blue, or I am very tempted for the the gray/white that the navy switched to in that time frame. 

Anyhow, attached is the before picture.  A tired but loved model built @10 years back. 
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 13, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
Dave,

That sounds a good plan.  :lol:

Where are the 'winders going to go, on top of the wings perhaps, a la RAF Jags? I hope you'll fit some bigger engines, a couple of J-79s should move it on a bit. And you'd be able to make tea on the launching ramp for about 30 mins. afterward. ;)
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: sandiego89 on March 13, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
Kit, thinking the winders will go on the fuselage side, actually on the side of the engine covers, using a rail system like on the F-8 crusader. might use the double rack from a F8 allowing mouting of a zuni rocket pod and a winder on the same rack. 

Thought about jaguar like above wing mouting but looks like things got pretty wet over the wing. 
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 13, 2009, 05:28:18 PM
Neat idea Dave, that arrangement on the F-8 would look pretty good.
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: Weaver on March 15, 2009, 05:29:33 AM
Mad idea: how about putting the 'winders on the sides of the fin? After all, the "ground" crew could stand on the wing to load them, and they'd be perfectly sited to "look up" into a turn.....
Title: Unwitting Witness to History
Post by: sequoiaranger on March 15, 2009, 10:43:41 AM
As a lad I grew up in San Diego. The Convair plant is (was--the sawtoothed roof building is still there, under different owner/management) situated along Harbor Drive, which is between the plant and the bay. I lived on Point Loma, and the route to downtown San Diego was always along Harbor Drive. There was a Coast Guard station right on the bay, and ramps for the amphibians. I have seen the Sea Dart many times at that ramp, and actually saw a test flight skimming on San Diego bay. Never thought to bring a camera and photograph them---it was an all-too-common sight! I had the old Lindberg (Comet?? Strombecker?) model (maybe 1/48 scale?) of the Sea Dart WAAAAAY back when!

Another Convair plane I saw many times was the "Pogo" VTOL plane. I don't remember ever seeing one taking off, but saw them with propellers spinning in place and coughing purple exhaust.
Title: !!
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 15, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
Sequoiaranger,

You actually SAW a Sea Dart and the Pogo??? With your own eyes???

RESPECT!  :rolleyes:
Title: Seadart progress
Post by: sandiego89 on March 18, 2009, 05:28:46 PM
Started the build, found the old paint very tough to remove. 
-Old X-15 style canopy off, will be a conventional two piece canopy.  F-102 shape just didn't work.
-Drilled and made housinging for four 20mm guns.
-2 new skis as one was missing in action (found the underside of F-14 engine nacelles had nearly identical curves! And also found a use for the F-14 I had cut the nose off for a Sea Harrier Airborne Early Warning whif (posted on the what if completed bulid section).
- New main struts- old F-15 main gear thus the Robins Egg blue.
- Side winders ready, still debating the location.

Best of all having fun.   
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: sotoolslinger on March 18, 2009, 06:04:22 PM
neato :wub: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: Weaver on March 19, 2009, 02:18:45 AM
Always struck me that you could make a "Super Sea Dart" by adding a hull & skis to an F-106.....
Title: Finished CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: sandiego89 on March 28, 2009, 04:39:35 PM
Completed the Sea Dart.  Shown in the markings of VF-24 aboard a WESTPAC cruise aboard the tender USS CURRITUCK (AV-7) during the Korea crisis, fall 1959. 

Equipped with AIM-9B and 4x 20mm colt cannons. 
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: sandiego89 on March 28, 2009, 04:42:12 PM
A few more shots
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: GTX on March 28, 2009, 08:21:40 PM
Wicked! :thumbsup:

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: anthonyp on March 29, 2009, 09:08:47 AM
Oh, wow!

That is one heckuva Phoenix!  Really like this one.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 02, 2009, 05:47:22 PM
Well done, San Diego! You carried off the paint scheme with great skill.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: The Rat on April 02, 2009, 05:51:46 PM
OOOOOOOOOOH YEAH! That is ready to seriously kick butt!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: John Howling Mouse on April 03, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
You've taken what I always thought to be an exotic design to begin with and turned it into something amazing.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: Green Dragon on April 09, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
Nice one Sandiego, very cool.

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: CONVAIR Sea Dart
Post by: Joe C-P on April 21, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
Oooo RAAH!  :wub: