Hi, I spent the morning building this model in Strata - I discussed this idea before under the Luxury Italian Boat Thread. This is a twin boomer like the other S series planes, but this one is enormous, and has a central salon.
The Grand Saloon is 40 feet wide and about 15 feet high at most.
I added a figure for scale -- added pillars as well.
Jawdrop!!!! :wub: :wub:
Daryl J.
Where's the Martini bar for Kelly?????
Also decided the plane needs sixteen engines!
This is legitimately super-cool stuff! :cheers:
Can't wait to see it finished!
I altered the structure in the main saloon -- I added arches for structural strength. The wing's main members run through This room.
Some of the most innovative - in every way - CG work this website has ever seen. You sir, are the JHM of profilers.
Very beautiful, thanks! :thumbsup:
Quote from: nev on April 25, 2009, 03:09:53 AM
Some of the most innovative - in every way - CG work this website has ever seen. You sir, are the JHM of profilers.
Thanks, but I'd go as far as to say he is the "slava_trudu" of profilers.
Amazing vision and ability to translate it to the screen.
Why thank you, John -- though I do not know who slava_trudu is, I thank you. I have been redesigning the sructural members that run through the lounge area, as well as selecting and building furniture. I decided to go with Eileen Gray, a really underrated genius of the 20th century. Not being born with a penis means a lot of her stuff is ignored. She was easily fifty years ahead of her time, perhaps more. So, I have populated the louge/salon with her Bibendum love seat, her Transat chair, her Bauhaus lamp and her sofa table (though I raked the bent chrome legs inward to look more jaunty). I assume there is some restraint system for the furniture -- likely a modular array of holes in the floor, with corresponding pegs on the furniture.
I will probably make the Transat chairs ebonized wood to match the floor with white leather upholstery. Who knew there was so much interior design on What If???
My research: Eileen Gray wove a lot of modern carpets, and in 1920-30s Paris, you went to her store (Jean Desert) if you were hip and rich. She could not call her store Eileen Gray, so she invented a partner, 'Jean Desert.'
Looks like a fun place to have a martini or two !!!! :wub:
Another view across the lounge.
This to so long to render! I imagine because of all of the furniture!
Reflective and refractive materials take a lot of system resources to render.
I would imagine that the seats facing the forward wind screen would be perfect......
Amazing! :cheers: :thumbsup:
I couldn't help to think of a resturant in that plane, too...... ;D
DY031101:
Yes, I want to remove some sofas along the back wall, put in tables, and also a bar. Gotta have booze!
I also forgot a baby grand piano.
Been working on engines and wings -- I modeled the engines more or less on those on the Dornier Whal.
Added metal edges to props, railing on bow decks.
Starting on the hull. I spent the morning researching Savoia Marchetti liveries for their planes. Google is so odd -- I got completely difference results today, very rewarding.
Oh, and I found out the words that go in that long pennant graphic on the hull: 'Societa Idrovolanti Alta Italia'
I did a quick test render on the hull paint -- I built in some 'waviness' to the texture to give the realistic impression of large size. I will be adding portholes too.
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:cheers: Holy cow. Seriously, Holy cow !!!!!!
Why thanks, Greg! Here's another in-progress: added a bunch of bracing wires (which hardly show here) and am working on tail surfaces. OH yeah, I added the conning tower too.
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Somebody *has* to scratchbuild this!
:cheers:
Daryl J.
Quote from: kitflubber on April 29, 2009, 11:31:18 AM
I did a quick test render on the hull paint -- I built in some 'waviness' to the texture to give the realistic impression of large size. I will be adding portholes too.
Fer yer future reference, that "waviness" is actually called "oil-canning". Happened to B-52s all the time.
I gotta say, that S-M is amazing.
Adding more love to the tail and wing control surfaces... I notice some of the older sea planes had secondary airfoils above aelerons and elevators above them. I assume they were rudimentary trim surfaces or assistance devices -- they look cool!
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Designed the tail boom today -- I see it as a huge panel of stretched fabric with painted graphics. I named the boat 'Flying Dolphin' (Delfino Di Volo), and designed a seal.
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Adding love to the tail fin.
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Superb work KF! ;D
I love your 'Flying Dolphin'. :wub: :bow:
Quote from: Daryl J. on April 29, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Somebody *has* to scratchbuild this!
:cheers:
Daryl J.
Daryl J. -- but I am scratchbuilding it, just virtually. I still had to start with three view drawings, just like a real model, had to mold and refine forms just like a real model, choose colors and textures just like a real model, change my mind constantly, just like a real model, reinvent, revise revise revise (just like a...).
True, I don't have anything to 'hold,' or put on a shelf, but I can look at it from any view I want, any time. I can also put my view inside the model, and look out.
Funny thing about my virtual planes: I shuttle them between work and home on a cheap key chain USB drive. That tickles me, to think I am carrying a bunch dream-planes in my left front pocket!
KF, this way no one will break the thing either.
This is fun to watch go up.
Daryl J.
Quote from: kitflubber on April 30, 2009, 07:14:11 AM
I notice some of the older sea planes had secondary airfoils above aelerons and elevators above them. I assume they were rudimentary trim surfaces or assistance devices -- they look cool!
Kitflubber,
Those were servo-tabs effectively, the controls moved the tab, which in turn moved the main surfaces. Very prevalent in Brit flying boat designs of the same period.
I am realizing how appallingly huge this plane is... you can walk upright in the FLAPS!
...on your electric bike !
Fantastic work, sir !
PR19_kit, thanks for the info!
I did some more with the wing texture.
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Engine details... I need to have a caged ladder under each engine, for inflight work.
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Better oil canning in the engine surface.
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Unbelievably good! For the lounge, would they have to bolt everything down to keep tables and stuff from moving whenever the aircraft banks, etc.?
Love the "oil-canning." I've tried to do that with a Dremel on plastic but haven't got the hang of it, yet.
JHM,
Thank you so much for the words of encouragement!
I was thinking there would be a modular system with holes in the floor, and steel pegs on the furniture bottoms. One could move furniture around to fit in any other holes in floor. The rugs would be fastened as well.
I did some quick overviews this morning -- so many fiddly bits left!!
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Conning Tower -- built rudimentary interior, put in big ship's wheel.
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Forgot the oil canning!
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Super coolness !!! Boy, can you imagine the parties on that one with some Italians !
Quote from: kitflubber on April 30, 2009, 07:14:11 AM
Adding more love to the tail and wing control surfaces... I notice some of the older sea planes had secondary airfoils above aelerons and elevators above them. I assume they were rudimentary trim surfaces or assistance devices -- they look cool!
Not just flying boats and seaplanes, another famous user of 'park-bench' ailerons was the Northrop Gamma:
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Years ago Jared Zichek wrote an article for Airpower/Wings on Boeing tailless/flying wing designs of the thirties,
'park-bench' control surfaces figured prominently in those designs.
Jon
Heehee, 'Park Bench,' I like that name.
Quote from: kitflubber on May 18, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
Heehee, 'Park Bench,' I like that name.
Same here, kinda makes me nostalgic for the age of simple descriptive terms.
Nowadays it would no doubt be called by a long name consisting of a minimum of
four words, the first letters of which would be read as an acronym. :banghead: