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Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Aircraft => Topic started by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on September 18, 2011, 01:51:03 PM

Title: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on September 18, 2011, 01:51:03 PM
Been away so long from here, almost forgotten how to do this !  :blink:

So before I post any pics or any of that nonsense, here's something that I don't do all that often... A brief and totally ficticious backstory just to put the project in a geographical and historical context.

Right equipment, right place, wrong time !

Hughes Defender AH.1

In the mid 1980's an enlightened cadre of MoD staff, serving Army officers and defence 'specialists' submitted a report to the JCS in Whitehall. It outlined a perceived need for a fast response 'asset', based in and/or around Berlin, that could operate in an enclosed 'urban warfare environment' and blunt any initial WarPac armoured thrust over (through ?) 'the wall' ahead of the arrival of the Berlin Brigades' heavy armour.

The report recommended the acquisition of a small, fast, manoeuvrable and well armed 'aircraft' that could operate with the minimum of support from virtually any piece of ground that it could fit into.

Thought was given to a 'stripped-down' version of the Lynx, an 'up-armoured' version of the Gazelle, the Bo105 – already in service with Luftwaffe and Heer units, the Bell Kiowa and the Hughes 500MD. In 1988, in a rare display of giving the military precisely what it asked-for, twelve of the diminutive Hughes machines were ordered. Eight TOW armed Defender AH.1A's went to Germany, four unarmed AH.1's remained at Middle Wallop for training, all arriving in the spring of 1989.

It was the briefest of service lives for most of the twelve Defender's as in 1990 & 91 the Cold War effectively ended and the need for a small, light anti-tank helicopter, solely based in Berlin, ended virtually overnight.

All bar two AH.1A's were put into storage at RAF Shawbury in summer 1992. The two not placed into storage were passed to an 'undisclosed' defence contractor based in Herefordshire. Later the remaining ten airframes were donated to the fledgling Republic of South Africa Army Air Wing as a goodwill gesture following the release of Nelson Mandela and the fall of the white apartheid government in 1994.


More soon.

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2011, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on September 18, 2011, 01:51:03 PM
The two not placed into storage were passed to an 'undisclosed' defence contractor based in Herefordshire.

Yeah right Ian, I'll believe that............  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Mossie on September 19, 2011, 02:20:31 AM
I do like the flying egg, sound like angry insects when they get going.  Now which part of it's career are you covering, the Berlin machines, training airframes or the two in use with the Hereford Gun Club???
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on September 19, 2011, 03:01:48 AM
Patience chums, patience  :mellow:

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: TallEng on September 19, 2011, 05:02:31 AM
I like that Idea :thumbsup:
There should be scope for some interesting Camouflage schemes.
Of course in real life, they would have tried to Anglicise the poor old Defender,
and it would have gone overweight and over Budget, get cancelled and then replaced
by good old British compromise.....  (5 Stripped out Wessex wiv SMG's ty-wrapped to their U/C) ;D

Regards
  Keith
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on September 19, 2011, 05:05:17 AM
Quote from: TallEng on September 19, 2011, 05:02:31 AMI like that Idea :thumbsup: Of course in real life,

Regards
 Keith

Good job we're not dealing with real life then... I don't have a Wessex in the stash !  :blink:

Interior sprayed today, nothing remarkable, so no need to post any pics. Will spend the evening hunting around for some appropriate leftover etched brass harnesses to bend into submission !!

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Mike Wren on September 21, 2011, 07:50:16 AM
Berlin Brigade camo? please...  :wub:  seem to remember one was trialled (by RAF? AAC?) at Boscombe Down at some point? EDIT: apparently we trialled on briefly in 1966 - the weather was bad so not much evaulation done!
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 05, 2011, 12:38:41 PM
Some progress:

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Just need to rub-down the tail-cone 'stopper', then can get an undercoat on it.

AFN

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 05, 2011, 02:54:27 PM
This is going perfectly. The little Defender is turned in a big work.  :thumbsup: :cheers: :bow:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 16, 2011, 04:45:47 AM
No I haven't been neglecting this project !!  :wacko:

Managed to finally get the first coat of paint on it last week - Friday to be honest, been on a course all week. Will start the first round of masking this evening and take some pics. Decided to go with the 'Berlin Brigade' scheme, but instead of the 'off-white' tone used on the Landies, APC's & Chieftains, I'll use Lt. Aircraft Grey.

Pics very, very soon. Stay tooned.

Ian

Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Aircav on October 16, 2011, 04:53:52 AM
Looking good Ian, I know when my father was on the weapons selection for the Lynx they preferred HOT after all the tests but the MoD went for TOW because it was cheaper at that time.
All the best
Steve
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 16, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
Masking first Lt Aircraft Grey areas went well this evening. Used mainly 10mm x 10mm squares with a couple of 5mm x 10mm and 5mm x 20mm. Will keep this as consistant as possible throughout... not easy  :banghead:

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Hopefully will get the next colour on it on Tuesday. As ever, thanks for taking the time to look.

Ian

Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 16, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
Wonderful, but I have a doubt. If you covered with a cone, the gas outlet of the turbine, where do we come out now? Are you  thinking, to compensate for the torque with the flow of gases?  !ingenious¡  :thumbsup: :cheers: :bow:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 16, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
No Pablo, Hughes already sorted-that for me !!

The 500MD was marketed with a bi-furbricated (engineer speak for split-ino-two) exhaust system, which is included in the kit. The exhausts exit through two pipes on the rear fuselage above the weapons pylons and just below the start of the tail-boom. I'm certain this was done as an effort to beat heat-seeking missiles & 'MANPADS'

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 16, 2011, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on October 16, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
No Pablo, Hughes already sorted-that for me !!

The 500MD was marketed with a bi-furbricated (engineer speak for split-ino-two) exhaust system, which is included in the kit. The exhausts exit through two pipes on the rear fuselage above the weapons pylons and just below the start of the tail-boom. I'm certain this was done as an effort to beat heat-seeking missiles & 'MANPADS'

Ian

I know, but I don´t know the kit included it. Really I was thinking in the substitution of the tail rotor with a new form, like the MD900 or another else.
But all this things  are irrelevant. The most important is you are making an exelent work, in a very nice kit. I like it.  :thumbsup: :cheers: :bow:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 16, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
Quote from: Pablo1965 on October 16, 2011, 03:01:55 PMReally I was thinking in the substitution of the tail rotor with a new form, like the MD900 or another else.

Pablo, I'm not that clever... the most complicated engineering I ever do to a model, is change the prop or the nose-cone. I'm happy simply 'painting things differently'. Good to know that you're following the build and thanks for the comments.

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 17, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on October 16, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
I'm happy simply 'painting things differently'.

Ian

That is the most important, Be happy, this is a hobby. :cheers: but "simply"...I doubt... :cheers:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Howard of Effingham on October 22, 2011, 03:14:13 AM
hmm, I-H-G!

just how much tamiya masking tape are you getting thru these days?  ;D

do you need emergency supplies sending in?  ;D

nice idea and good model so far.
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Mike Wren on October 22, 2011, 07:39:03 AM
looking forward to this one Ian...  :wub:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 30, 2011, 04:23:30 AM
Brown on and masked:

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More in a minute !

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 30, 2011, 04:26:20 AM
Ta-da !

Masking off, skids & tail on - now it's starting to look like a helicopter !  :drink:

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More soon.

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Steel Penguin on October 30, 2011, 04:38:51 AM
now that looks smart Ian, any plans on outher stuff to go with it?
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 30, 2011, 04:44:09 AM
Other projects ??  :unsure:

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Captain Canada on October 30, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Very nice ! I love that helicopter.....

:drink:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 30, 2011, 09:13:54 AM
 :bow: Awesome!  :bow:

Now I kinda have visions of this turning and burning through Berlin, much like the Cayuse Malcolm McDowell's character used in the helo dogfight in Blue Thunder.  :wacko:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: FAR148 on October 30, 2011, 01:02:31 PM
The man said Ta-Da! It's always inspiring to see your work! :thumbsup:

Steven L   :cheers:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 30, 2011, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: ChernayaAkula on October 30, 2011, 09:13:54 AMNow I kinda have visions of this turning and burning through Berlin, much like the Cayuse Malcolm McDowell's character used in the helo dogfight in Blue Thunder.  :wacko:

That, Moritz, was exactly what was playing in my mind when I was planning it !!

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Mossie on October 30, 2011, 04:46:19 PM
Now I didn't see that coming, despite the Berlin Garrison being mentioned!  Cracking stuff Ian! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 - Nearly there...
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on November 01, 2011, 03:47:49 AM
And we're done !

Hughes/Westland Defender AH.1A
633 Sqn 'Berlin Flight'
Army Air Corps
Gatow, Berlin 1990





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Thanks for all the encouraging comments. Certainly not one of my best projects but good fun.

AFN

Ian
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Mossie on November 01, 2011, 03:53:13 AM
It's all good! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Weaver on November 01, 2011, 05:23:35 AM
Looks great - nice one!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: TallEng on November 01, 2011, 06:20:37 AM
Ooh! I like that :thumbsup:
Mind I had to google Berlin Brigade camouflage to find out what on earth  it was!!
http://www.emlra.org/articles/berlin_brigade.htm (for those that would like to know how it allegedly came about)

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Mike Wren on November 01, 2011, 07:40:15 AM
lovely!  :wub:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: NARSES2 on November 01, 2011, 08:42:50 AM
Quote from: Mike Wren on November 01, 2011, 07:40:15 AM
lovely!  :wub:

Agreed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Taiidantomcat on November 01, 2011, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: TallEng on November 01, 2011, 06:20:37 AM
Ooh! I like that :thumbsup:
Mind I had to google Berlin Brigade camouflage to find out what on earth  it was!!
http://www.emlra.org/articles/berlin_brigade.htm (for those that would like to know how it allegedly came about)

Regards
Keith

I am actually surprised we don't see more of it, definetly qualifies as a "whiif of Mass destruction" scheme (A paint job that looks good on just about anything!)

This is a great model! These little birds are so nimble I could just see them flying down the narrow streets and doing pop up attacks only to disappear in the background all over again.  :thumbsup:

Nominated for a Whiffy (Great year for helicopters! Who saw that coming?)
Title: Re: Hughes Defender AH.1 * * F I N I S H E D * *
Post by: Army of One on November 08, 2011, 01:24:17 PM
This is a spanking model......!!! Nuff said...... :thumbsup: