Seeking the most advanced and fast project of the Me 262´s family, could be this: Me 262 HG V: the fuselage of high speed of the Me 262 HG I, with some improvements: the wings with a steeper angle (as the Me 262 HG II), a new more aerodynamic tail, and a single more powerful engine; innovations that were collected years more later by the american F-86 Sabre.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2FDSCN1436.jpg&hash=ce8cd3fa5d6dbe2c85eb08a04af3794b4cb25456)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2FDSCN1437.jpg&hash=798904dc2aaa35814eb954bea3fca6e6372ce250)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2FDSCN1439.jpg&hash=e057d753250f77bb3b4907855e6be2873abb20da)
Regards
Fran
What? :blink: :angry: A Me 262 with a nose air-intake? How do you dare such an heresy, such a... what-ifery!?
Only someone like Tophe would clap his hands, both of you will be condemned! :angry:
----
Congratulations, from Tophe ;D :lol: :thumbsup:
Ohh now thats a nice idea, should be a good one to watch come together :thumbsup:
So the fuselage is from an Me 262 and the flying surfaces and the intake are from a Sabre?
I'm amazed it seems to fit together so well! Nice thinking. :thumbsup:
Looks good as a model but just not sure where the engine really fits - but it will look really great - look forward to seeing this one
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 10, 2012, 12:50:16 AM
I'm amazed it seems to fit together so well! Nice thinking. :thumbsup:
Me as well
Good idea !
Hotte
Quote from: dumaniac on April 10, 2012, 03:07:34 AM
Looks good as a model but just not sure where the engine really fits - but it will look really great - look forward to seeing this one
Behind the pilot, with the ducting going around each side of the cockpit tub? Looks ok to me.
Cracking idea, Fran! :thumbsup:
Hum... Nice use of the PM F-86 Sabre plastic blob :)
I like the idea. More like the P1101 melded into an Me-262. The wings seem to have an enormously thick trailing edge (bottom photo optical illusion?), but otherwise "right" in angle and span. I know Heinkel was working on a series of very powerful jet engines near the end of the war--maybe ONE of them would have similar or greater thrust than the standard two Jumo 004's and could propell this new HGV. Good luck.
Thanks to all. PR19 kit: it wasn´t easy to join pieces of both aircraft. I had to forced the triangular section of Me 262´s fuselage up to coincide with the F-86´s intake.
Dumaniac: As pyro-maniac and SR say, i imagine that the engine should be behind the cocpkit; i think like the Me 1110 (similar to swedish Lansen).
Anyway, i find the result of the fusion fascinating, as the logical future evolution of the Me 262.
Slerski: Yes!, it´s the kit of PM of the F-86..... not easy.
Craig: yes, i´ve to continue working to make the rear edge of the wings. I had to cut previous the F-86´s wings.
Cheers
Fran
Great concept!!
>Craig: yes, i´ve to continue working to make the rear edge of the wings. I had to cut previous the F-86´s wings.<
If you cut off the wing tip, then cut out a section of the MIDDLE of the wing chord (where the wing is thickest--#1 in the pic), you can add the tapered trailing edge of the F-86 wing (#2) and avoid trying to re-shape that thick trailing edge. That will keep a proper airfoil. I have done just such a thing on a past project. Food for thought.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FSabreSchmitt2.jpg&hash=a230c2fc49d5f52cbd69a1d5b65e521198a6107e)
Quote from: sequoiaranger on April 14, 2012, 08:42:39 AM
>Craig: yes, i´ve to continue working to make the rear edge of the wings. I had to cut previous the F-86´s wings.<
If you cut off the wing tip, then cut out a section of the MIDDLE of the wing chord (where the wing is thickest--#1 in the pic), you can add the tapered trailing edge of the F-86 wing (#2) and avoid trying to re-shape that thick trailing edge. That will keep a proper airfoil. I have done just such a thing on a past project. Food for thought.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FSabreSchmitt2.jpg&hash=a230c2fc49d5f52cbd69a1d5b65e521198a6107e)
Ii think it would perfect Craig, but; unfortunately, the longitudinal cut of the wing has done irrecoverable the trailing edge. I have to work more with the sandpapper.
Thanks
Fran
At last i can to resume this job!
I´ve changed the wings. These are better, with better attack edge, and join with the fuselage too.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F262_zps6vprvwxp.jpg&hash=443d47ab5546af76561b543d7c1932ef8a88d47e)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2Fhgv_zpsooaltx40.jpg&hash=f407e20e7f2462a233229ca9407b0a652340be75)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F2622_zpstmrvjv4i.jpg&hash=c810d8e14e82604684d5c314178ad4e20a9060c8)
Love the look of this.
This is going to be good, i love the idea! :thumbsup:
:cheers:
what scale are you boys working in - 72 or 48 (or 32?)
There's a neat idea !
:cheers:
Quote from: dumaniac on May 25, 2015, 01:28:23 AM
what scale are you boys working in - 72 or 48 (or 32?)
72. All 72. Fuselage of Me 262 V9 (MPM); air intake, tail and horizontal stabilizers of F 86 (PM), and wings of Junkers EF 128 (Huma).
Regards
Fran
New pics:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F262%2520M%2520001_zps1jxbs29y.jpg&hash=98096b2978e53efbd08d9c105d895f06944db041)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F262%2520M%2520002_zps88hphsqi.jpg&hash=8a6c399a47dcf01559da2e57834a1a0ee9a322b2)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F262%2520M%2520003_zpsqyeodgma.jpg&hash=7e1f84e51bd8d20d9bcfec880bf82a42a85d6065)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F262%2520M%2520005_zpslryiqozt.jpg&hash=561edfb659f1fca5aa8cca7012648c32c0c14d3f)
Regards
Fran
Excuse me; i´ve finally been able to return the kit. This is the paint scheme:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F001_zps2kfezaci.jpg&hash=4675e74375a0dfd01ce9c374a285add44d597b19)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F005_zpstvjbh40v.jpg&hash=d9d92ebd6420120f8c58fab0e1caa7cdc154ff93)
Regards
Fran
Leave it the way it is and paint some eyes on it and I'd think it was a real shark !
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Captain Canada on September 05, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
Leave it the way it is and paint some eyes on it and I'd think it was a real shark !
:thumbsup:
I was thinking exactly the same! :thumbsup:
Wow. Great paint.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/ec/64/f1ec64a8913945439a371234d0dc083e.jpg
:o :wub: That scheme is beautiful! :thumbsup:
Great model, oh yeah... :thumbsup:
Interesting - especially the cockpit in the central position creates a unique look. :thumbsup:
Many thanks to all. Finished at last:
Me 262 HG V. Leutnant Joachim Weber. JV 46 "Richthofen", Lechfeld. Germany; summer of 1946.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F013_zpsvjiuy1pu.jpg&hash=bb83f4951a7c980641da2063a3623e63a706adad)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F014_zpsitkwswyf.jpg&hash=b331dc2a7f7a1a0449cccc4e648bf29368c13c94)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F007_zps6zamqexn.jpg&hash=72d2a8392f37779a1a449bc226a9d7471c55e336)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2F012_zpsqmllbhym.jpg&hash=1f4891bf898a75742963c368e0a50f0e3830bdf3)
I hope you like it.
Very much!! :bow: :thumbsup:
What's not to like ?
:thumbsup:
Great job. Looks better than I imagined....love the tulip nose as well, and the canopy.
:cheers: :bow:
Very cool. Looks a bit strange (in a positive way), but also very German. Nice one! :thumbsup:
That really does look good, just love the colour scheme :thumbsup:
love the concept - I will have to give this a go in 48
love the camo and nose decals
well done
Thanks, :thumbsup:
Only one thing, the cockpit will have to be "bubble type" (perhaps prettier). I chose the fuselage of the Me 262 V9; with "Rennkabine".
Here another very similar concept on other whifie i made a long time ago; "The Me 286". The intake cames from a 004 engine on 1/48.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2FDSCN0662_zpsa5urxbrr.jpg&hash=b330f2f759bd7f95bfc6cbe956e575f458a8266c)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee362%2Ffranacon%2FDSCN0666_zps2jub12ba.jpg&hash=c5a22152fe76b896778c1c6ce68413ad27985c63)
I hope you like,
Fran
they're both really nice!
It's a great idea and works really well, the fuselage shape really lends itself to that sort of engine/intake configuration!!!