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Title: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: tigercat on July 25, 2012, 10:47:58 PM
How effective/ feasible  would the Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest have been as a  FAA aircraft.
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: Dizzyfugu on July 26, 2012, 12:10:44 AM
They would have made the Sea Fury from it...?
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: NARSES2 on July 26, 2012, 12:41:53 AM
Quote from: tigercat on July 25, 2012, 10:47:58 PM
How effective/ feasible  would the Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest have been as a  FAA aircraft.

There were plans for a Typhoon with extended wings. Not sure if they were planing on giving it a torpedo but it would have made a heck of a strike fighter
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: dogsbody on July 26, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
This may help:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi92.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl23%2Fchris7421%2FTyph.jpg&hash=8d27432342eff4b6018c740efeb81bd21bed41d4)
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 26, 2012, 06:08:42 AM
The original Typhoon was cumbersome at best, this would have been a nightmare.  And the Sabre was a very complex engine with close tolerances (you couldn't swap bits from one to repair another).  Wouldn't want to be fixing that on a pitching carrier.
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: tigercat on July 26, 2012, 06:34:28 AM
What about the Tempest II with the Centaurus engine ?
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 26, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
Why bother?  When they had the Sea Fury being developed in the same time frame as Tempest II and was designed for carrier use from the start.  More duplication of effort.

Although I could see a folded Tempest wing being of more use on a Sea Fury developed more for a strike role because you could then use the centreline.
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: tigercat on July 26, 2012, 07:07:34 AM
If the RAF hadn't have requested the Fury which later became the Sea Fury  then they'd have needed to look elsewhere so  voila the Tempest.
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: NARSES2 on July 26, 2012, 07:17:17 AM
Thanks for the drawings Dogsbody. I've seen a very nice build of a Sea Typhoon at an East London show in the past
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: tigercat on July 26, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
Great drawing is it from a book?
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: dogsbody on July 26, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: tigercat on July 26, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
Great drawing is it from a book?

This one:


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Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: kitbasher on July 26, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 26, 2012, 07:17:17 AM
Thanks for the drawings Dogsbody. I've seen a very nice build of a Sea Typhoon at an East London show in the past

I've got the bits and a P1009 is on the 'to do' list.  Be careful with plans though - I've got three different sets and none of them agree with the published dimensions.  Some have the right span but not the fuselage length, others vice versa.  Making a composite is the best thing to do.
And yes, a torpedo was on the cards - the P1009 was offered up to the same specification that led to the Blackburn Firebrand.
Oh and I concur with Wooksta's appraisal - in fact even Sydney Camm wasn't convinced by the project at rather oddly let it wither on the vine while Hawker focused on Tempest and subsequently Sea Fury development.
;D ;D
Title: Re: Hawker Typhoon/ Tempest as a carrier aircraft
Post by: NARSES2 on July 27, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
It allways amazes me how often the plans of aircraft that were actually built differ depending on which ones you use, let alone those for unbuilt projects.  Still you can always answer the naysayers with a "well actually I used the newly discovered plans by A. K. Hakenbridge"  ;D