Partaking in a 10 day Easter GB on another forum, we were given the following brief.....,
Air Ministry Design specification No. MMM1
Dated 29/3/1965
The RAF / RN have established a need for a long range tactical airborne battleship capable of reaching Mach 1 in level flight but also the ability for landing on Water or Land to refuel / re arm.
It is required to have a both offensive and defensive armament and be able to carry out air to ground / air to sea / under see offensive duties
Due to the cost implications for the MOD this aircraft must be a twin seat, medium bomber style aircraft
Salient points
Speed: at least Mach 1 in level flight
Altitude: at least 44000ft
Range: 2000miles without refuelling
Capable of landing on water / or land
MUST INCLUDE
A PAPERCLIP and SPRING ........... :blink: :wacko:
So after the usual help from Mr Daniel's and his son Jack, I came up with the following.
AVIATION EXCLUSIVE
With news that TCAC, (TC Aircraft Corporation), has entered the competition to design and build a new military aircraft for the RAF and Royal Navy under the Air Ministry Design specification No. MMM1, Dated 29/3/1965, the company has released it`s first picture of a major component of their new design.
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It is understood that high level negotiations are under way with a well known stationery company to aquire the second major component, although details are still sketchy at this time as to what that exactly involves.
They have revealed however that large amounts of plastic have been shipped to their factory and a preliminary design will be released to the public soon.
CEO and chief designer Tony Clay released the following statement with regards to the new aircraft.
`wibble`
More on this story as we get it.
POWERPLANT EXCLUSIVE
Following last night`s announcement of TCAC`s involvement in building a new aircraft for the RAF and Navy, the company has just released the following pictures of the new designs powerplant.
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Compared next to the hulk of a defunct Hunter fighter you can gauge the huge size. While no information was released with the photo`s, aviation experts have sumised the new powerplant is fitted with afterburner capability with an estimated speed of Mach 1.5+
More on this story as we get it.
Breaking away from the spoof news reports and just incase a few of you are wondering where the hell I`m going with this conception of which there will no doubt be a few, here are a couple of mock up pictures of the design which is still very much a case of WIP and subject to change.
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Another reason for the pictures is to show where the spring will fit into all this. As you will note it is part of the cockpit capsule ejection system. Obviously with a whacking great big intake just above and behind the cockpit, conventional ejection would not be a good idea, so the spring pushes the cockpit infront and then below the main fuselage in an emergency. A sort of downward ejection system which may very well of been considered at this time in history.
0.o'
Why are you showing us these photo's upsidedown? :blink:
Quote from: JayBee on April 02, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
Why are you showing us these photo's upsidedown? :blink:
theyr the right way up for me
;D ;D ;D
Strangely the model under construction bears no resemblance whatsoever to what I pictured in my mind when I read the 1st post. :blink:
My mind flew directly to a Mach 1+ airship with remote/AI controlled 6" (or greater) multiple gun turrets fore & aft, & above & below the body with 4"/4.7" secondary armament hanging out the sides, along with an assortment of other anti-aircraft weaponry, &, possibly, aerial-torpedo* tubes &/or -mine* dispensers.
Which completely fails to mention the radar housings & tiny command cabin mounted below the body... or maybe above, if I'm feeling a little perverse. :wacko:
So, I guess it really does take all sorts! :rolleyes:
:cheers:
Guy
:tornado:
(* Torpedoes or mines which either fly through or float in the air.)
Quote from: Old Wombat on April 03, 2013, 07:08:22 AM
Strangely the model under construction bears no resemblance whatsoever to what I pictured in my mind when I read the 1st post. :blink:
My mind flew directly to a Mach 1+ airship with remote/AI controlled 6" (or greater) multiple gun turrets fore & aft, & above & below the body with 4"/4.7" secondary armament hanging out the sides, along with an assortment of other anti-aircraft weaponry, &, possibly, aerial-torpedo* tubes &/or -mine* dispensers.
Which completely fails to mention the radar housings & tiny command cabin mounted below the body... or maybe above, if I'm feeling a little perverse. :wacko:
So, I guess it really does take all sorts! :rolleyes:
:cheers:
Guy
:tornado:
(* Torpedoes or mines which either fly through or float in the air.)
:lol:
I think the description has been left open to interpretation Guy. Well, I hope so anyway.... :wacko:
Had a quick redesign of the engine and fuselage layout as I needed to comply with the second crewman and self defense aspect of the spec, so a rear gunners position has been installed. (The pics show the model pre-sanded btw).
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Great! Go on! :thumbsup:
needs MOAR POWAH!!!
Latest update piccie, with no end to the filling and sanding in sight. (Well..., perhaps by tomorrow?) :lol:
Required spring is in situ, just now very well hidden. ;D
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BREAKING NEWS
TCAC announced today the aquisition of the second major component for their new design. It is understood that an eleventh hour deal was struck last night with a well known stationery company which includes a two percent share in any future orders of the new strike aircraft.
TCAC released the following pictures to the press showing the newly aquired part and a first mock up of the overall design, although it has been stressed that some features are subject to change.
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Nice and shiny :thumbsup:
Not the greatest of picture updates, taken in a rush before I head off to the office.
First major change was the paint scheme, wanted something looking more like a mid 1960`s prototype colour as I really didn`t like the `shiney` look after it was applied. Kept the gloss look as well in keeping with a `fast` look for the aircraft. Decals have helped bring this to life so to speak and the paper clip makes for a rather nice pitot tube.
U/C next on the agenda and then the backstory.
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Just realised there's a tail position under that stonking jet pipe ???
Great colour scheme :thumbsup:
Looks more French to me.
Shades of the Grognard, mixed with, er... something else.
That tail gunner might find things a little hot there......
Gondor
Very Kool !!!
Cheers guys, not the best build I`ve ever done, but certainly a challange in trying to design something to a specific spec.
The build is now finished with a few pics below. Will take a couple of diorama type piccies shortly with the backstory to boot.
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Quote from: Mr.Creak on April 09, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Looks more French to me.
Shades of the Grognard, mixed with, er... something else.
I was trying to think and that's it :thumbsup:
Quote from: Gondor on April 09, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
That tail gunner might find things a little hot there......
Gondor
He's there with a box of matches incase of flameout ;D
I really like this build, it captures the feel of the period for me. All those prototypes in nice bold colours :thumbsup:
July 16th 1965
FUTURE RAF AND ROYAL NAVY AIRCRAFT UNVEILED
A picture released today from TCAC, (TC Aircraft Corp) show off the latest aircraft design from the company to meet the Air Ministry Design specification No. MMM1 tender first set four months ago on 29th March. Called the TAC 7 Demonstrator, the company has claimed that it is a Mach 2+ aircraft capable of reaching heights of 50,000+. Two variants will be offered to the RAF and Royal Navy.
The TAC 7 has reported started test flights at RAF Boscombe Down with both the RAF and Navy using their own test pilots for evaluation.
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October 10th 1965
Proposed New RAF/RN Aircraft Faces Problems
More details and pictures have been released about the new TAC 7 aircraft after three months of test flying and evaluation at Boscombe Down. Unofficial sources claim that while the performance of the aircraft exceeds the specification, the RAF and Royal Navy are not happy with the crew escape mechanisms.
Both the pilot and navigator/gunner both sit in their own capsules at either end of the aircraft and in an emergency both capsules have been designed to detach from the main aircraft and then descend via parachute. While the RAF acknowledged that this system worked fine in principle at high altitudes, it was the lower altitudes that gave greatest concern. This sentiment was repeated by the Navy as when the aircraft is operating from carriers, take off and approach are considered the most dangerous areas of operation and this existing system would prove almost deadly.
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TCAC made a statement after these concerns were highlighted by the press which said, `TCAC proposed the new design to meet the specification and this design should in no way be considered the final concept. It was built as a demonstrator and all concerns highlighted by the Air Ministry will be looked at and resolved`
The company spokesman also offered some new information about the aircraft stating that it will be fitted with four hard points under the wings for weapons loads. Also mentioned was the new undercarriage of a `stronger design` was being finalised for Carrier operations and the range of the aircraft with wing tip tanks was projected at 2000 miles.
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December 1st 1965
New Redesign for the TAC 7
Further to the report two months ago that the TAC 7 project was facing issues from both it`s prospective customers, the RAF and Royal Navy, it has been reported today that these have now been worked out and the aircraft has has been redesigned to better suit the clients.
TCAC`s press officer released the following,
`After spending a number of months working with the Air Ministry and Royal Navy, the crew escape issues reported by both parties have now been resolved. The two crewman will now sit in tandem, (one behind the other), with the rear cockpit being replaced with a remote controlled barbet 20mm canon.
Martin Baker has worked closely with us and have successfully completed trails of a new ejection seat that will safely eject both crew members away from the aircraft and especially the engine intake. After seeing the results of the tests the RAF and Royal Navy now consider the issues resolved and further testing and evaluation of the TAC 7 will proceed as planned`
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Very inspiring. I like what you have done here.
Ed
Great model and "history" :thumbsup:
Cheers guys. :cheers:
Tried to capture some of that nostalgic mid 60`s weird British aircraft design mojo.... and I feel I got some way there. :smiley:
Quote from: tc2324 on April 12, 2013, 08:39:02 AM
Tried to capture some of that nostalgic mid 60`s weird British aircraft design mojo.... and I feel I got some way there. :smiley:
They'd have given you a job if you'd been around :thumbsup: ;D