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Title: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: The Rat on January 21, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Had this idea for a while, and fortune smiled on me with the availability of a C-141 and a KC-10, both in 1/200th scale. Boom has already swapped boxes, as have the decals. But I may be able to get RCAF decals in 1/200 from JBOT, so that's another option. PSR has started, more than I expected from the test fits. The kit was obviously designed to be built with the rear cargo doors open; they fit fairly well in the closed position, but leave rather noticeable gaps, and the ramp was a real PITA to line up. The name Starfueler is probably only temporary.

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Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: kerick on January 21, 2018, 06:17:14 PM
If you close up the ramp be sure to add a side cargo door. KC-135s and KC-10s haul a lot of cargo.
This sure looks cool!
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: AS.12 on January 22, 2018, 03:25:32 AM
As an historical aside, when Lockheed were pushing the C-141 to the Canadians as the 'standard heavy' for transport / tanker /ASW and personnel movement they proposed adding CCTV so that human cargo could watch TV monitors of the passing skyscape, in the absence of windows.

I see that Emirates have recently reanimated that idea with their first-class cubicles.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: TheChronicOne on January 22, 2018, 05:13:26 AM
Good project!! Love me some Starlifters.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: sandiego89 on January 22, 2018, 05:35:25 AM
Excellent idea, looking forward to this one.  3-point? 
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: Tophe on January 22, 2018, 08:03:49 AM
For me, the 141 code means asymmetry (Bv-141-like), will you include a touch of asymmetry? :-\ ;D
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: AS.12 on January 22, 2018, 08:37:41 AM
Something else I've just found in the Flight archives, if Canada had selected the C-141 it was proposed to place production there to let the Marietta plant concentrate on the C-5. 

The plan was then to keep the 141 line open for the Candian order and also potentially as a platform for the P-3 follow-on ( 50 years too early, there )
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: KiwiZac on January 22, 2018, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: TheChronicOne on January 22, 2018, 05:13:26 AM
Good project!! Love me some Starlifters.
Me too! I'm excited to see this one take shape. And I, for one, am quite happy with the Starfueler name.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: AS.12 on January 22, 2018, 11:42:14 PM
Though in Canadian-English it would probably be Starfueller.

Perhaps Startanker would be safer?  Et peut-être StarRavitailleur sur l'autre côte du fuselage?

Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: sykotik on January 23, 2018, 05:01:17 AM
What a cool idea! I'll be watching  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: KiwiZac on January 26, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Startanker. I like it!
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: The Rat on January 27, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on January 22, 2018, 05:35:25 AM
Excellent idea, looking forward to this one.  3-point?

I was thinking of that, means that I have to scratch a couple of pods.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 27, 2018, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: The Rat on January 27, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on January 22, 2018, 05:35:25 AM
Excellent idea, looking forward to this one.  3-point?

I was thinking of that, means that I have to scratch a couple of pods.


The Airfix VC10 tanker has a couple included in the kit, so long as you can find one of course.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: The Rat on January 27, 2018, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 27, 2018, 01:28:35 PM
The Airfix VC10 tanker has a couple included in the kit, so long as you can find one of course.

££££££££!  ;D
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: AS.12 on January 28, 2018, 12:34:10 AM
Diagram of the Beech 1080 pod at the bottom of this page:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=nIJsBAAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PA302#v=onepage&q&f=false

The ventral fairing extended down by 39 degrees by means of a winch and cable and had 50 ft of hose.  Cleared to 45,000 ft and 350 knots
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: Hobbes on January 28, 2018, 02:50:22 AM
I have a few tanker pods going spare, if you want them.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 28, 2018, 04:13:26 AM
Quote from: Hobbes on January 28, 2018, 02:50:22 AM

I have a few tanker pods going spare, if you want them.


Now why doesn't this surprise me?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: sandiego89 on January 28, 2018, 05:47:22 AM
I imagine some 1/72 bombs would work for 1/200 pods.....
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: The Rat on January 28, 2018, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: Hobbes on January 28, 2018, 02:50:22 AM
I have a few tanker pods going spare, if you want them.

Thanks, but I'll bet they aren't 1/200th scale. Aye, there's the rub...
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: Hobbes on January 29, 2018, 01:25:29 AM
Yes, missed that. Mine are all 1/144.
Title: Re: KC-141 Starfueler
Post by: Captain Canada on February 04, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Sounds like a pan Rat !