Interesting that it is possible to operate a light trainer from a carrier without catapult/arrester wires. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=233&v=a_OlHmImXtU&feature=emb_logo)
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You learn something new every day. I didn't know that a) Italy had carriers and b) they operated Harriers.
I must admit I was slightly disappointed that the light trainer didn't use the ski jump.
A clever ship, the Cavour, it carries landing craft as well as aeroplanes! :thumbsup:
Of course the Harriers showed how it SHOULD be done later on. To quote the late John Farley 'It's easier to stop and land than it is to land and stop.....' ;)
Good stuff! Try this link https://youtu.be/a_OlHmImXtU
About the Blackshape Prime:
http://blackshapeaircraft.com/en/prime/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshape_Prime
Like to see him do that with the same load out & fuel load as the Harriers, & manage the same/similar top speed. ;)
Well done
The US Marines would on occasion operate OV-10 Broncos off flat deck US Navy LHA's without catapult or arresting gear.
Quote from: sandiego89 on July 11, 2020, 11:14:51 AM
The US Marines would on occasion operate OV-10 Broncos off flat deck US Navy LHA's without catapult or arresting gear.
There's a vid of a couple of Broncos doing that somewhere. I tried to find it on YouTube but without success. :(
And isn't there some pics of a Bird Dog landing on a carrier too?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 11, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
There's a vid of a couple of Broncos doing that somewhere. I tried to find it on YouTube but without success. :(
And isn't there some pics of a Bird Dog landing on a carrier too?
Major Buang escaped South Vietnam by flying his Bird Dog to the USS Midway- with the wife and kids on-board!
https://www.historynet.com/maj-buang-lys-daring-feat-to-save-his-family.htm
Quote from: sandiego89 on July 11, 2020, 03:21:39 PM
Major Buang escaped South Vietnam by flying his Bird Dog to the USS Midway- with the wife and kids on-board!
https://www.historynet.com/maj-buang-lys-daring-feat-to-save-his-family.htm
What a fantastic tale, I knew I'd seen something about it somewhere. :thumbsup:
Has anyone operated a Pilatus Porter from or to a carrier?
I did a search but found nothing.
Given (according to Hollywood) Air America operated them during the South East Asia Police Action of the late sixties I would have thought they might have tried.
As we have seen on film they can land in their own length on the side of a mountain, so a carrier should be no problem.
I wonder if anyone has tried a Caribou? I've seen one land and take off from a Parade Ground. It was pretty spectacular. I've been inside one which did a slightly longer take off. That was "daunting" was the right word, I think. :thumbsup:
JCF posted this pic of Ryan Navion on a carrier deck in my Mustang F-6H thread a while back.
Apparently it's aboard the USS Leyte.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fee%2FRyan_L-17_Navion_on_USS_Leyte_1950.jpg&hash=2d060f76bbe1756de7c54b251fa1eb417865b917)
Didnt an islander/defender land on and fly off Ark Royal without traps and cats?
Makes you wonder if the defender aew Could have been viable flying off Invincible...
Nice video!
Totally off on a tanget: I wonder why one of the Harriers had it's drop tanks on the inner wing pylons, but the other one had them on the mid-wing ones?
Cavour can stow army vehicles on it's hangar deck and off-load them onto a dock via ramps, but it doesn't have a floodable stern well like the USN's assault ships (LHAs).It thus can't directly support an amphibious landing: it's more of a logistics capability.
Oh! He was in the air much before the ski jump.
There were also trials of C-130 landing and taking off on the USS Forrestal. No wire, no catapult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-poc38C84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-poc38C84)
U 2 aircraft were operated off carriers too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6wzLiYAuKs
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6wzLiYAuKs)
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2018-featured-story-archive/project-whale-tale-u-2-flights-off-aircraft-carriers.html (https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2018-featured-story-archive/project-whale-tale-u-2-flights-off-aircraft-carriers.html)
Quote from: Rheged on July 13, 2020, 09:43:09 AM
U 2 aircraft were operated off carriers too!
Yeah, but they have long wings. ;D
Rumour had it that PR19s may have done the same................ ;)
The USMC operated Stinson OY Sentinels in WWII...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Stinson_OY-1_aboard_USS_Petrof_Bay_%28CVE-80%29_off_Peleliu%2C_19_September_1944_%2880-G-378466%29.jpg/761px-Stinson_OY-1_aboard_USS_Petrof_Bay_%28CVE-80%29_off_Peleliu%2C_19_September_1944_%2880-G-378466%29.jpg)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stinson_OY-1_aboard_USS_Petrof_Bay_(CVE-80)_off_Peleliu,_19_September_1944_(80-G-378466).jpg
...and Korea...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/USS_Sicily_%28CVE-118%29_launches_OY-2_Sentinel_off_Korea_on_22_September_1950_%2880-G-420239%29.jpg/800px-USS_Sicily_%28CVE-118%29_launches_OY-2_Sentinel_off_Korea_on_22_September_1950_%2880-G-420239%29.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Sicily_(CVE-118)_launches_OY-2_Sentinel_off_Korea_on_22_September_1950_(80-G-420239).jpg
...and my grandfather told me about a USMC unit training with them when he served on the USS Ranger (CVA-61) between 1957-60. I probably have pictures of it in his old cruise books that I have. He said that the deck crew had to lean on the struts to keep them from lifting off vertically when the carrier turned into the wind because the Sentinel's take off speed was so low.
Cheers,
Logan