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Title: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 12, 2021, 06:56:38 AM
As mentioned elsewhere on site, I received one of these as a test shot/prototype 3d printed kit from Gannet Scale Models (aka Lost Cosmonauts).

The bits look something like this.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51352152388_af51facc85.jpg)

Except there was another set of wings as the first set didn't come out too well.  They were also a bit sticky and after an email conversation with Alistair, he recommended that they should be left in direct sunlight to cure further.  So the got left on a windowsill for a day or two.

Anyway, as mentioned in my Not a Spitfire Blog, I did some clean up work yesterday.

Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 11, 2021, 03:05:22 PM
I started cleaning up the Gannett kit/prototype/test shot of the English Electric P.8 and it's coming together reasonably well although I can see some more sanding and test fitting before I can think of using any glue. I do know that some bits will need the hot water treatment whilst the wing trailing edge needs rebuilding. I also have to build up the wing root leading edge as Alistair had issues getting it out, but it's taped up now and it looks impressive.

It's a bit odd in that there are some panel lines but not others. For example, the flaps are on the wings but no ailerons. The air brakes are there but not the removable spine that would have allowed access to the upper engine. There's no rudder either, but I have a vague memory of TsrJoe telling me the type would have had an all moving fin - ie the entire fin was the rudder a la TSR2.

I'm happy with it so far - I've been wanting one of these for a good twenty years and the opportunity to build one is simply a dream come true. I've already expressed an interest in a second, possibly a third, as I'd like a more developed version in a late Lightning scheme, in the air defence greys, bigger fin and either more missiles or underwing tanks, plus a scab on belly tank and refuelling probe.  Maybe 5 sqn markings.  The other one I'm tempted with would get VG wings, either some bits I got from Joe (IF I can find them) or the Freightdog ones.

As it goes, it's a superb effort, a big leap in quality over his earlier printed kits and I think Alistair will go from strength to strength. Now, what about an EE P.6 single engined Lightning and a Hawker P.1103?

So, more sanding and hot water.  The wing root leading edge roots that are missing can be taken from the remaining fuselage/wings that were sent. 
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: kitbasher on August 12, 2021, 07:15:46 AM
 :thumbsup:

Following with interest, Lee.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 12, 2021, 07:31:02 AM
Really cool! What type of plastic is it, and what kind of glue are you using?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 12, 2021, 07:58:42 AM
It's a plant based resin, apparently and some cheap superglue will probably suffice.

The joints are all butt facing, but the resin seems to be constant thickness so some plastic card stiffeners will be of some assistance.  I know I'll have to use them in one place as the resin snapped - thankfully cleanly - when I was trying to bend it into place.  Ooops!
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 12, 2021, 08:20:33 AM
An interesting set of landing gear on that one.

Is that like set they proposed for the Swing Wing Lightning?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 12, 2021, 08:28:41 AM
Think the VG Lightning had the u/c in the wings just moved inboard a bit.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Gondor on August 12, 2021, 10:33:40 AM
The VG lightning had it main undercarriage in the non moveing part of the wing

Gondor
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on August 12, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
Very interesting.  Have you assembled the landing gear in those shots or is it printed with the gear and doors already in place?

Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 12, 2021, 11:46:45 AM
Printed in situ.  TBH, I'm not happy with it, because it means you can't be as rough as you would normally be when wrestling something like this together.  That said, the resin does seem to be surprisingly strong.

I have some photos of the cleaned up bits, I just haven't uploaded them yet.

And I have it together.

The build sequence was somewhat different.  I glued the two forward (cockpit) halves together, and then the mid (wing) was joined to the back (tail) in their respective halves (port and starboard), and the two brought together like a normal kit.  However, it wasn't quite aligned, so I struggled a bit and then realised that the problem was the fin, so it got cut off.  Only to take part of the upper fuselage with it.  Cue geet big hole.

The cockpit module went on last, but due to the alignment issues, I could only glue the starboard side, leaving a bit of a gap on the other.

There are quite a few gaps, so my filler of choice will be superglue and baking soda.  I need that to sort out the ailerons before I rescribe them.  The speed I'm going, I'm looking to get the first coat of paint (Halfords) on by Saturday.

Dug through the Lightning decal box and have found several differing sets of markings for the Air Fighting Development Squadron from different manufacturers and have settled on the Modeldecal ones as despite being long OOP, they're not too hard to acquire.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Gondor on August 12, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Here is a couple of pictures of the VG Lightening for those wondering about it's undercarriage set up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47945429977_5f3a490f11_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g3LRWr)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4444/37053193004_f3b133d247_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ysginf)

Gondor
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Mossie on August 12, 2021, 01:54:32 PM
Watching this closely Lee.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 12, 2021, 02:13:07 PM
Ahah, it retracts inwards rather than outwards.

Thanks for that Mossie.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 12, 2021, 02:51:28 PM
So, where do we start?

Hmmn, cleaned up bits.
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/237465417_2944473029102147_7962826563970393603_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=a6YlJnp4_PMAX-6QpKi&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=b2de01e049ffe0ed86e7dbbfc2a42f07&oe=611A9B1D)

Some internal bracing
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/237948279_2944473229102127_8363886858352441420_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=zlqWUkCk8AQAX8u8aCl&tn=3E5xYtcqoSbUzeDx&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=316332b3430d31c68575c21642d72444&oe=611A13DF)

Starboard half resting together
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/237685692_2944473349102115_2428157589649342973_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=GqUbsO1TacEAX9eYd_X&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=eef542067fe5dbf24eef992902a45732&oe=611AE51A)
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/237704536_2944473282435455_6814374547913506730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=HzYRwH0z3akAX_r5n5I&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=3bcfcffd1dcb74dd3fdab3951f8528a4&oe=611A0B55)

Taped up
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/cp0/e15/q65/s600x600/237848187_2944473489102101_2161922102301641758_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=uknYOTrBSZUAX81P1os&_nc_oc=AQnlH4XXtC3Er0lZ7hBBtRLpWdNi1zpS2OUoXHjW4o7YzdQa5n4kvYA6RVq8LLoz44M&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=4557728b9d53d0643a4e197254899ea5&oe=611AAB5B)

With a "standard" Lightning for comparison.  It never did get it's Genies...
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237580517_2944475792435204_8782999476160490174_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=kWxg7BgS2C0AX8FqwB3&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=ad46f4aaab1f61c578cf94a889aeb702&oe=611A6583)

All together now.  Note lack of fin and the geet big hole.
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/234792371_2944476062435177_1826028814745785920_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=vAJJFmuUk6sAX9gcBg0&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=64a1e95ca440dba92adec0954513a771&oe=611A9F68)
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237997586_2944476162435167_6733080436016326525_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=Z9uc9HB8z4cAX88g2VE&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=e04f1d0001e5d9074ea1f9864f5a3a90&oe=611A1BB1)

Fin and canopy resting in place
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237446901_2944476265768490_2658650701803025445_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=aU-TIrulQrUAX9LJIxH&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=27df22054c16e6a3b94a14a4ea622b3f&oe=611AF805)

Mocked up with scab on belly tank from a Lightning F.1
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237642936_2944476832435100_1214499458648314575_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=8_hBvW-c1vQAX9YLczW&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=f7e81bedfae58841c9000ff46e2ba93a&oe=611A1E2C)

And with a Lightning F3/F6 fin
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/236860328_2944477152435068_7931744880382722993_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=tBfE24lCO3YAX8-UHwi&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=d0807a4f48e203f501a5f9e6b28f2d8c&oe=611AC566)
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/234363180_2944477209101729_2059970112038355959_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=L_o8Gbdh2QwAX_BqVcZ&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=e0518515197c7704651e89b8f26969a5&oe=611A2D02)
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Gondor on August 13, 2021, 05:58:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 12, 2021, 02:13:07 PM
Ahah, it retracts inwards rather than outwards.

Thanks for that Mossie.  :thumbsup:

PSSsssstt.... Kit.... that was me that posted the pictures of the VG Lightning :rolleyes: ;D  :thumbsup:

Gondor
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 13, 2021, 06:39:04 AM
Canopy printed in solid material?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 13, 2021, 07:32:02 AM
Alistair has said future ones will be printed in a clear resin.  The nose section is hollow , so the builder could put a cockpit in if they wanted and there are some resin Lightning tubs that would suffice. Based on Lightning and TSR2, the colour would be close to med sea grey.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 13, 2021, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: Gondor on August 13, 2021, 05:58:55 AM

PSSsssstt.... Kit.... that was me that posted the pictures of the VG Lightning :rolleyes: ;D  :thumbsup:


Oooops, sorry Alastair.  :thumbsup:

You expect me to read the words as WELL as look at the pics?  ;D
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: kitbasher on August 13, 2021, 08:38:17 AM
Many thanks for running this thread, Lee, very helpful - even more tempted by the P8 - such a Sexy Beast! 

Interesting to see the belly tank and fin photos; natural appendages of course, given their applications on P1s/Lightnings.  I assume you're not adding them to this particular build.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 13, 2021, 09:06:43 AM
No, it's going to be strictly OOB as I'd agreed it as a review sample.

The next one... different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Lost Cosmonauts on August 13, 2021, 09:47:28 AM
Possibly a daft question but would it pose a problem if the whole thing were printed in the clear resin? Just saves me guddling around and cleaning the vat which is a messy job

Based on your build comments I've had a bit of a rework and will try it out tomorrow - will take about 13hours to print so maybe have some results Sunday morning. Work of this afternoon:
- clear canopy
- one piece shock cone
- Front fuselage as two halves to allow adding cockpit
- mid fuselage as one piece with engine bay doors as separate parts
- main wheel bay section broken out for easier clean up
- tail section as one piece so the fin doesn't foul assembly
- wings separated and trailing edge thickened a smidge
- control surface detail deepened a bit to try and make them more legible

Owt else I'm missing for now?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 13, 2021, 11:36:25 AM
Don't see why not, just depends on the cost - is the clear stuff cheaper or more expensive?

May need to add the rudder outlines. I know it's meant to be a full flying fin according to Tony Butter but all the drawings still show what appears to be a rudder. Trim tab possibly? Actually, the etched detail is just a bit too fine and disappears when sanded.

I've got the bulk of the filling done, just working on rebuilding the wing leading edges as I'd used the centre sections without the tips to aid getting the cockpit section to fit, plus the trailing edges were better.

I'll post more photos tomorrow but I may well have some paint on by then.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 13, 2021, 11:43:11 AM
As I build everything flying - would I be horribly difficult to allow for a wheels up configuration?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Lost Cosmonauts on August 13, 2021, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: Pellson on August 13, 2021, 11:43:11 AM
As I build everything flying - would I be horribly difficult to allow for a wheels up configuration?

Not at all, All of the doors are there so I need to go backwards a bit and revise. I plan to offer both options once the underlying design is sufficiently tweaked
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Lost Cosmonauts on August 13, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 13, 2021, 11:36:25 AM
Don't see why not, just depends on the cost - is the clear stuff cheaper or more expensive?

May need to add the rudder outlines. I know it's meant to be a full flying fin according to Tony Butter but all the drawings still show what appears to be a rudder. Trim tab possibly? Actually, the etched detail is just a bit too fine and disappears when sanded.

No odds either way on material costs but much easier to print everything in one material than having to drain, clean down and switch over regularly

Rudder is in the revised one now, thanks
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Gondor on August 13, 2021, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 13, 2021, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: Gondor on August 13, 2021, 05:58:55 AM

PSSsssstt.... Kit.... that was me that posted the pictures of the VG Lightning :rolleyes: ;D  :thumbsup:


Oooops, sorry Alastair.  :thumbsup:

You expect me to read the words as WELL as look at the pics?  ;D

And you did the Squadron Markings for it....

Gondor
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 13, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: Lost Cosmonauts on August 13, 2021, 12:06:45 PM

No odds either way on material costs but much easier to print everything in one material than having to drain, clean down and switch over regularly


As long as the part that need to be clear are clear, I don't see any issues in having everything clear. After all - most reconnaissance noses etc are already all clear in injection molded styrene kits, and it is up to the modeller to paint. I believe the main reason for the styrene not to be all in clear plastic is the fact that clear styrene is much more brittle than regular coloured material.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 14, 2021, 09:22:27 AM
Getting there.  The wings are rebuilt and the scribing is done, so off into the garden for a primer coat to ties it all together and see what I need to fix.

Answer - a fair bit, but not as much as I'd feared.  Out with the Revell filler, although there's a few areas that will still need the superglue/baking soda malarkey.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 14, 2021, 12:51:02 PM
Progress!

First round of filler all cleaned up:
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238755861_2945834368966013_7183281333431507886_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=8Ju0ikX3NEgAX-_U94b&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=6746ad3cf95c46e4275dd681bd530c79&oe=611DBADE)

(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238891491_2945834532299330_1826313838242509256_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=yp-CTZJOTSIAX8eVW6a&tn=3E5xYtcqoSbUzeDx&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=ecbf37fdb9036dd610ba28d901dd4be7&oe=611DC849)

Primed
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Stop! Filler time!
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(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238353394_2945834512299332_8716691911938660215_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=KvtMItjsAlAAX812QYa&tn=3E5xYtcqoSbUzeDx&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=d7a9222df0fe498e32c9b5d798f2f7d2&oe=611D3911)

underneath not so bad
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237694134_2945834675632649_1623508947458589134_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=8RIbGHyam3EAX-oIpvG&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=419e43e99ccf7eb11ff0197bdf34e7d3&oe=611D692E)

(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238700743_2945834585632658_9134755953021813680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=JuQGvbEhzQwAX8lwvn1&_nc_oc=AQkieqXuQVLK7NQmLOJn3mTl28dXw824UbOz_fDvbi4qZLP4EPj2Gged97rcPVEajWM&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=349190fe5d8a329fcbb1c25c4da7f6cf&oe=611D5771%5B/%5D%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3EAnd%20tidied%20up%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bimg%5Dhttps://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238554622_2945834658965984_6863511067172315916_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=YC0uWlz35j4AX_RRxkx&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=bcfc9d01af3ee34f32680a785d821696&oe=611C3A44)

Time for the silver primer coat.  That'll shake out the last flaws!
(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/237296598_2945834722299311_2489744059644668795_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=oNkBUqC-Nj4AX8oPcnx&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=44b692b0a35bba37b48a3610db812d15&oe=611D1186)

(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238808471_2945834768965973_8800728073714216036_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=P190xNmx7ZIAX86nhsL&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=7fa898bd3331ce62abd964931fbea2aa&oe=611D1D55)

I have added a few tiny things - a tail bumper underneath the rear fuselage where it would be on the standard Lightning and a blister just aft of the canopy for some radio gear.  I'll add a couple of aerials there too.  Finally, I have a pitot tube to go on at some point.

So, final round of filler later and then a proper coat of paint in the morning.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 14, 2021, 03:37:55 PM
It's outright awesome!
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Mossie on August 15, 2021, 01:08:04 AM
Quote from: Gondor on August 13, 2021, 05:58:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 12, 2021, 02:13:07 PM
Ahah, it retracts inwards rather than outwards.

Thanks for that Mossie.  :thumbsup:

PSSsssstt.... Kit.... that was me that posted the pictures of the VG Lightning :rolleyes: ;D  :thumbsup:

Gondor
I thought he was responding to something in another thread!
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Lost Cosmonauts on August 15, 2021, 04:42:01 AM
Looks brilliant & the feedback on the build has been incredibly useful
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 15, 2021, 05:01:15 AM
Cleanup done and the second coat of silver has been applied.  Still some more niggly sanding to clean up and I can get the final coat on.  There's a few areas that could be cleaned up a tad more, but TBH, I think that's going to be an endless task akin to painting the Forth bridge but at some point you have to say it's enough.  Now I think is that point.

The canopy is a bit misaligned at the back, but I think that was my cackhandedness and I foolishly left off rescibing the ailerons underneath.  That's now done, so final coat of paint here we come and the decals can go on later.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: NARSES2 on August 15, 2021, 05:55:51 AM
Looking the business  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: DogfighterZen on August 15, 2021, 09:42:29 AM
That's looking very good indeed.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 15, 2021, 02:14:48 PM
 The decals are on and it has it's character. Not happy with the wing walkways but I can live with it.

I'll get the varnish on tomorrow and tidy up a few smaller bits and it's done. I'll post the rest of the pics then.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 16, 2021, 01:17:20 PM
Progress!

Final silver coat
(https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/238879047_2947203878829062_6058697507280236541_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=naGF3efwueAAX8EMvKP&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=d8eb879e7bdac95b6373826b2a45eca3&oe=611F6E4C)

With decals
(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/239227051_2947203922162391_8069233677034292600_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=EDf4Z7qIFyAAX9gOpaf&tn=3E5xYtcqoSbUzeDx&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=a0db1dad73dab6a92f02d0dd614c3577&oe=611F394A)

Nearly done
(https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/239466936_2947203972162386_8716527524982315011_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=6J55N8MlZx0AX8Mss5N&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=1f3bb06280dfd9b2e20504d91f957aa2&oe=611ED95A)

(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/239331993_2947203855495731_3145826244112153577_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=h80DgYRTJvkAX-ax_kx&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=b80790637b275cf4ace8cd9c10f6cd41&oe=611F107A)

Does my bum look big in this?
(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/239388184_2947204052162378_4933559795951321883_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=ZHcAm_LM_3sAX9VmP6D&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=f86f457aebc3d3f4830b2f4cb165ac13&oe=612022DF)
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: kitbasher on August 16, 2021, 01:40:44 PM
 :thumbsup:

Any issues with the paint going on, Lee?  I realise you sprayed it but do you foresee any problems with hairy stick painting?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Lost Cosmonauts on August 16, 2021, 01:42:29 PM
Looks brilliant, well done!
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Steel Penguin on August 16, 2021, 02:03:32 PM
Cracking Lee ! and thank you for the as you built review.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 16, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 16, 2021, 01:40:44 PM
:thumbsup:

Any issues with the paint going on, Lee?  I realise you sprayed it but do you foresee any problems with hairy stick painting?

None as far as I could see, but I'd still recommend a coat of Halfords Primer.  And if you're buying the primer, you may as well by their Aluminium too.

Just the pitot and a few tiny aerials, but they can wait.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: kitbasher on August 16, 2021, 02:25:16 PM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 16, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 16, 2021, 01:40:44 PM
:thumbsup:

Any issues with the paint going on, Lee?  I realise you sprayed it but do you foresee any problems with hairy stick painting?

None as far as I could see, but I'd still recommend a coat of Halfords Primer.  And if you're buying the primer, you may as well by their Aluminium too.

Just the pitot and a few tiny aerials, but they can wait.

Ta, Lee
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on August 16, 2021, 02:37:15 PM
Very nice. 
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 16, 2021, 02:42:47 PM
Realised I still need to do the missiles!
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Nick on August 17, 2021, 01:39:59 AM
Am I right in thinking that the P.8 was intended to be the ultimate fixed wing Lightning, solving all the issues with missiles and fuel range?
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Pellson on August 17, 2021, 02:44:27 AM
Magnificent build!!  :wub:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 17, 2021, 04:55:25 AM
Quote from: Nick on August 17, 2021, 01:39:59 AM
Am I right in thinking that the P.8 was intended to be the ultimate fixed wing Lightning, solving all the issues with missiles and fuel range?

It was to spec F.155 but had it been accepted it's likely it would have supplanted the Lightning at some point. I can foresee it with similar development or belly tank, bigger fin and possibly more missiles under the wings. There was a two seater drawn up, with the second guy behind the pilot.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: NARSES2 on August 17, 2021, 06:15:23 AM
Looking good Lee  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: Mossie on August 17, 2021, 06:39:39 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: English Electric P.8 - Spec F.155 Lightning development
Post by: buzzbomb on August 18, 2021, 04:24:45 PM
I like it, be a great addition to any Lightning collection