What if

Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Aircraft => Topic started by: NARSES2 on July 20, 2022, 06:41:05 AM

Title: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on July 20, 2022, 06:41:05 AM
I've been tempted into doing another Orkaan but in the standard Dutch 3 colour camouflage scheme. This time based on the Arma kit

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkan_Box_0001.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkan_Box_0001.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Wardukw on July 20, 2022, 01:14:35 PM
DO IT!!!! ..want to see that the Arma kit is like and the 3 tone camo too  ;D
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 20, 2022, 02:00:48 PM
The Arma kit's brill, I've had one for some time, but I've yet to come up with a Whiff idea to use it yet.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Wardukw on July 20, 2022, 11:17:13 PM
Well you have a wiffy idea now matey  :thumbsup: and i would recommend that you go with that idea with that Hurricane since you have or didnt have a plan for it  ;D
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on July 21, 2022, 06:14:33 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 20, 2022, 02:00:48 PM
The Arma kit's brill, I've had one for some time, but I've yet to come up with a Whiff idea to use it yet.

It does look rather tasty in the box. Hopefully start cutting plastic over the weekend.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on July 23, 2022, 05:46:43 AM
Started cutting plastic so I thought I'd share my first impressions.

On the down side the sprue gates are disappointing. Rather large and in some awkward locations, especially on some of the very delicate ones. Some parts, like the cockpit framing are very easy to damage on removal because of the strain put on them as you cut/trim the gates.

Still not a show stopper by any means and most are simple to deal with using a sharp blade and some home made sanding sticks  :thumbsup:

The fit is exceptional and the parts click together with a very positive feel. Lots of location aids  :thumbsup:

The one thing I would say to help location of parts is to just drill some  of the location holes out a little wider and fraction deeper. Minimum effort for which the reward is  :bow:

Overall I'm very impressed so far  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Wardukw on July 23, 2022, 01:46:38 PM
This sounds like a rather nice kit ..very interested to see pics as the quality seems to be up there Chris.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on July 31, 2022, 06:30:32 AM
Been out and about and catching up with some old school friends etc the past week, so no progress. Hopefully back down to the bench this coming week.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 07, 2022, 05:46:49 AM
I've now got this assembled and she's ready for the paint shop, hopefully get her primed tomorrow.

The one thing as per normal nowadays is that I'm left with a feeling that most of the work put into the interior is a waste of time ? It's all very nice and detailed and you spend a fair time building and painting it, close the fuselage halves together though and 75% of it disappears into the darkness. Even with the aid of an open canopy of which you are provided with an open and closed option. Still no great shakes and I'll see if it influences the time I spend on my Mk II  :angel:

Still I'm enjoying the build.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Wardukw on August 07, 2022, 12:37:13 PM
Have the same issues with interiors..tobgo nuts or not.
That brand new 32nd scale Lancaster..full interior detail..you could go mental painting and detailing the inside of that and at nearly $1800NZ for it you'd probably want to ..but whats thr point..you wont see 90% of it..armour has the same issues and ya wont find me going nuts there unless its got a big back door  ;D
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 08, 2022, 07:18:05 AM
Got her primed and unfortunately that's highlighted more p.s.r. than I was expecting. Most of that, if not all of it, is down to where I thought I'd cleaned sprue gates up, but when you get primer on them they show up rather like a joint mark on timber  :-\ Still I'll sit down and have a session tomorrow.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Spey_Phantom on August 08, 2022, 11:41:54 PM
looking forward to seeing it finished  :mellow:

PS: you misspelled "Orkaan" it has 2 a's.  ;)
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 09, 2022, 05:52:47 AM
Cheers Nils  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 14, 2022, 06:24:31 AM
Progress  :thumbsup: 2 of the eventually 3 colour main camouflage and the rudder striping painted. Should get the third colour done over the next couple of days and then it's transfers and finishing.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 21, 2022, 05:44:43 AM
Right paintwork complete and transfers on, so I'm on finals and should get her finished this coming week.

As I'm nearly there I thought I'd bring a few of my earlier comments about the kit together all in one place, especially as ARMA's kits do seem to be receiving rave reviews in the UK modelling press.

Detail is superb and fit is excellent, albeit a tad tight in places and it does occasionally need a helping hand with a sanding stick or pin drill. However be aware the plastic is soft and the sprue gates numerous and large, especially on some of the tiny parts where they are a p.i.a. if I'm honest. Clean up requires a sharp blade, patience and better eyesight than mine.

Is it worth it ? I'd say yes and it will be interesting to see what their Mustang and Wildcat are like, although I've read some "interesting" stories about the Wildcat's undercarriage.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 27, 2022, 06:13:03 AM
Right here we are finished

A Hawker Orkaan Mk I (Metal wing) of the 1.II.1 (1. Ja Va) (First Fighter Squadron) Shipol, The Netherlands, August 1939.

One of the 12 metal winged Hurricanes shipped to the Dutch in August 1939 and unveiled to the Dutch public in its handsome Dutch AF colour scheme at Shipol airport on the 28th August 1939. (see the backstory on the fabric wing build https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=50643.15 (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=50643.15) for the background to this)

This is the Arma Hobby kit and is very nice, if a little fussy in places with some awkward and chunky sprue gates, finished mainly with Hataka's Dutch WWII AF colours and using transfers from a Special Hobby Fokker D.XXI.

At the end of the day and if you only want to build one Hurricane Mk I and can accept it's a fabric wing version, then I would honestly say go for the Airfix kit unless you really want a later metal winged version. Yes, the Arma kit's detail is finer, but the Airfix kit builds slightly easier, just watch the undercarriage assembly. There isn't much to separate them to be honest.

I have Arma's Mk IIC in the stash and will be building that shortly, so it will be interesting to see how that goes.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_5.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_5.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_4.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_4.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_2.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_2.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_3.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_3.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_6.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Late_Orkaan_6.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Early and late/Fabric and metal

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Early_and_late_Orkaans.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a134/NARSES2/Early_and_late_Orkaans.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: zenrat on August 27, 2022, 06:29:13 AM
 :thumbsup:

I need to build more Hurricanes.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Old Wombat on August 27, 2022, 06:33:01 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Quote from: zenrat on August 27, 2022, 06:29:13 AMI need to build more Hurricanes.

Everyone needs to build more Hurricanes! ;D
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: loupgarou on August 27, 2022, 11:49:18 AM
Pretty build, Narses.
And thanks for the kit review. I wasn't even aware of the Arma brand... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 27, 2022, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 27, 2022, 06:33:01 AMEveryone needs to build more Hurricanes! ;D


Absolutely! :thumbsup:

And your Orkaan is a thing of wonder in that scheme Chris, it really looks the part. And the 'double' pic most impressive too.
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: Wardukw on August 27, 2022, 06:50:36 PM
Love it Chris  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
And we are all in agreement..more Hurricanes needed  ;D and now i want one damn it  :banghead:  :wacko:
Title: Re: A Dutch Orkaan- Part 2
Post by: NARSES2 on August 28, 2022, 12:33:26 AM
Cheers Gents