Another shelf queen that never got finished, although it got decalled and vanished before falling apart. Either that or it was a feline related accident.
Anyway, I'm not saying what it is as yet, only that it's one of my fetishes, it fits current thinking and Kit will like it too.
Currently sitting in a washing up bowl with Mr Muscle trying to remove the paint.
Pics will follow at some point soon.
Bulk of paint removed, so some pics are in order.
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Yes, I know that wingtip needs rebuilding, but I have plastic card and superglue. What can possibly go wrong?
Can you tell what it is yet?
A Me 151 crossed with a TA 152 ??
Other than those guesses I've no idea ;D
No, but it looks like a modified Ta.152. :unsure:
Given the wingspan, I'm sure Kit will know, though. ;)
I don't know but it looks really interesting!
I'm pretty sure the 151 had cranked wings or something close to those but the fuselage definitely looks 152 but twin engined .
It's weird and I like it 🙂
With the rearward engine driving a compressor?
Those air scoops are throwing me off!
There was an Fw-190 with a socking great turbo-charger under/behind the cockpit with an equally large intake under the belly as I recall. This looks like a re-hash of that idea with the intakes on the sides.
But with longer wings naturally. ;D
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 14, 2023, 03:20:14 AMThere was an Fw-190 with a socking great turbo-charger under/behind the cockpit with an equally large intake under the belly as I recall. This looks like a re-hash of that idea with the intakes on the sides.
But with longer wings naturally. ;D
Been hunting Kit and I found the plane tour talking about I.. it's called the F-190 V18 Kanguruh ..has the large intake under the fuselage.
Still no luck finding out what the hell Lee's put up here but I'm bloody certain I've seen it before.
It's like it's a modified BV-155 .
The wingtip is fixed and described, so some reassembly will commence tomorrow.
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The pipes from the exhaust to the turbocharger are back in pace and filled.
The grey filler is old, but as it's still doing it's job, no need to remove it. The wings are still a bit warped. A nice hot bath and then a trip to the freezer.
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This is gonna be good... :thumbsup:
Quote from: DogfighterZen on May 15, 2023, 12:42:48 PMThis is gonna be good... :thumbsup:
Yeah once Lee tells us what the bloody thing is <_<
Right I knew I'd seen this plane before and I found it in a E book I have on my computer.
This is a Blohm und Voss P.205 .
This is a high altitude figther and the big intakes are for the gas turbocharger .
The engine is a Daimler-Benz DB 603V with take off power of 1710hp fitted with a Hrith TJKL 15 exhaust gas turbocharger.
HA!!! Lee I got it figured ;D :drink: :party:
Ain't it annoying when ya know you know but can't fricken remember where ya know it from ? ;D
Quote from: Wardukw on May 15, 2023, 08:39:46 PMThe engine is a Daimler-Benz DB 603V with take off power of 1710hp fitted with a Hrith TJKL 15 exhaust gas turbocharger.
The lines show like radial exhausts while DB603 was in line piston engine I thought... :unsure:
Quote from: Tophe on May 15, 2023, 10:25:09 PMQuote from: Wardukw on May 15, 2023, 08:39:46 PMThe engine is a Daimler-Benz DB 603V with take off power of 1710hp fitted with a Hrith TJKL 15 exhaust gas turbocharger.
The lines show like radial exhausts while DB603 was in line piston engine I thought... :unsure:
Tophe mate the 603 is a inline V12 engine.
Take at the Junkers 88..same thing ..Heinkel 219 ..Dornier 17E/F Dornier 217....all V12 powered .
Or the standard 190; inline engine and annular radiator.
Looking forward to seeing this one, Lee. :thumbsup:
Rick the early 190s ..models A,F and G used a BMW 801A 18cyl two row radial engine.
The D9 was the first to use a V12..I believe.
the 190's annular radiator (wth in line engine) had not radial exhausts, yes?? :unsure:
All of the 190s up till the D9 used a radial exhaust which exited just above the wings ..everything after the D9 used a in line exhaust which you can see just in front of the wings ;D
It's a Blohm & Voss P.205, right? Looks similar to an Fw 190 (esp. the V18 prototype), but it's bigger and IIRC an alternative design to the Bv 155?
The wing shape made me think if a Vultee design, though... ;D
Yup that's what it is mate ..I found it eailer today in a book I've got...im glad I found it cause it was doing my head in ;D
Now I'm annoyed cause that's a cool plane and I want a 48th model of it ;D
Quote from: Wardukw on May 15, 2023, 10:56:24 PMRick the early 190s ..models A,F and G used a BMW 801A 18cyl two row radial engine.
The D9 was the first to use a V12..I believe.
Yeah, you're right - I was using the shorthand in my head, referencing the D and forgetting the Radial versions... :banghead:
Quote from: Rick Lowe on May 16, 2023, 10:55:01 PMQuote from: Wardukw on May 15, 2023, 10:56:24 PMRick the early 190s ..models A,F and G used a BMW 801A 18cyl two row radial engine.
The D9 was the first to use a V12..I believe.
Yeah, you're right - I was using the shorthand in my head, referencing the D and forgetting the Radial versions... :banghead:
Well until I read my book I would have said they all had radials ..I didn't know that the D9 was the first..so now that givees me a idea :wacko:
There were several B and C series prototypes with the DB603. Esoteric did the former as rough conversions, MPM did the C series V18 with the bfo scoop, Airmodel did the same aircraft at a later point with longer wings. Aoshima released one of their Ta152 H-0 kits with decals for the V-18 as it was rebuilt to Ta 152 standards.
Well its proving my mind is going south..I have a FW-190 and I was thinking a engine conversion on a very early model ..turns out my 190 is a D9 and already has a V12 :o
Hobbyboss do the V-18 prototype, so you could rework it back to a B by leaving off the scoop and other bits.
Lee ol mate I'm am now thinking of something a little more drastic :wacko:
Still a engine conversion but more like a desperate attempt to get a plane into the air 😅
Quote from: Wardukw on May 17, 2023, 02:15:57 AMLee ol mate I'm am now thinking of something a little more drastic :wacko:
Still a engine conversion but more like a desperate attempt to get a plane into the air 😅
Don't forget that the "Re-engine it" GB starts on the 1st July and that you are one of the Moderators ;)
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 17, 2023, 05:47:30 AMQuote from: Wardukw on May 17, 2023, 02:15:57 AMLee ol mate I'm am now thinking of something a little more drastic :wacko:
Still a engine conversion but more like a desperate attempt to get a plane into the air 😅
Don't forget that the "Re-engine it" GB starts on the 1st July and that you are one of the Moderators ;)
Well that works out just nicely then good sir 👍 ;D
Now the ideas of what this re-engined engine will be :unsure:
Pipes sorted out, wings straightened, so back on. Need to sort out the fin before the tail planes go back on.
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And that is a 72nd Bf 109G-10 as a size comparator.
Yikes, she's a Big Girl, huh... looking forward to seeing where this goes. :thumbsup:
The tailplanes went on and got knocked off so it was left to gather dust. Until last week when they went back on and it got some primer.
And filler. Can't forget the filler.
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Filler is sanded off and it's due for some paint at the weekend. Not looking forward to masking round those pipes.
Magic to see this monster on the way again. :thumbsup:
B & V seemed to spend half their time RE-designing every one else's aeroplanes, didn't they? :o
Fascinating design. Looking forward to the finished build :thumbsup:
Yes, looking forward to more progress.
I still want one ..in 48th of course ;D ;D
Wonder how hard it would be to wiffy one up 🤔
The 76 is on and it's masked to spray the first of the two upper colours.
I'm a bit torn, as the instructions call for an 81/83 Dark Green combination, and indeed that's what was specified for the Bv 155B and C, I'm minded to go for an 82/83 combination as it's just a nice combination.
Ready to go once the primer I shot the starboard wing with has cured. A moulding issue that nigh on 30 years after I'd started the sodding thing I'd never fixed. Anyway sanded back and some dark colours should hide it. I've decided on the 81/83 combination.
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Paint should be going on soon.
I like the look of that :thumbsup:
Likely to get decalled this week, I've a spare set of Bv 155 markings to use. However, it's likely one a captured prototype - we captured the Blohm und Voss works at Hamburg - rather than something frontline.
The German markings are on and I've added a few fuel filler stencils, simply because they were there. RAF markings should be going on soon.