Dreistörers getting its own thread.
I am merging these kits into a trimotor heavy fighter.
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Me 109 interior as per the kit.
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And as of today the wings are glued in place.
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The Italeri Me 110 wings and nacelles are an ill fitting pile of cack.
The AZ Me 109 fuselage isn't much better but does have superior detail.
It's a perverse idea!
I hope you will NOT use enlarged tail surfaces. It will make an interesting flight experience for its pilot.
You'll be pleased to hear a standard Me 109 tail is going on there.
Well, I've seen Bf 110's outfitted with a third engine, but this is ...new. Curious how it evolves, looks a bit short at the moment?
^ or in need of pretty significantly sized fins and stabs.
Fantastic!! :thumbsup: :wub: :mellow:
looking good :mellow: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It's a nutbar idea from Zenrat Industries..yup its gonna be cool 😎 😄
This idea is really good , my respect for that design . :thumbsup:
That'll be zippy in a straight line and climb like a homesick angel.
Will there be extra shell projecting thingies under the wings?
Guns are an issue as there are so many propellers in their way.
This is a bomber destroyer so other options include rockets, missiles, some kind of Schräge Musik installation, bombs, aerial mines, harsh words, strong language...
With all that power, it might also be a fast recce aircraft?
Quote from: zenrat on July 31, 2023, 02:52:12 AMGuns are an issue as there are so many propellers in their way.
This is a bomber destroyer so other options include rockets, missiles, some kind of Schräge Musik installation, bombs, aerial mines, harsh words, strong language...
There are always a place for a gun ...
Or some more . And stuff :thumbsup:
Zenrat , you should expect to be copied with this great idea !
That's one of the best projects i have seen .
It has DB 605 engines. You can have 20 or 30 mm guns through the prop hubs. Also, machine guns in the cowling(s) - or machine guns in the wing, shooting through prop arcs..
Quote from: killnoizer on July 31, 2023, 05:00:38 AMQuote from: zenrat on July 31, 2023, 02:52:12 AMGuns are an issue as there are so many propellers in their way.
This is a bomber destroyer so other options include rockets, missiles, some kind of Schräge Musik installation, bombs, aerial mines, harsh words, strong language...
There are always a place for a gun ...
Or some more . And stuff :thumbsup:
Zenrat , you should expect to be copied with this great idea !
That's one of the best projects i have seen .
Thank Noizy. Copy away. It was you and Vostoc who caused the neurons to fire which inspired this.
Nice work on the cockpit innards :thumbsup:
You've got my brain working with this, and you've got me thinking of a twin engined version as the German equivalent of the Westland Whirlwind or maybe Grumman Skyrocket. I've a couple of AZ/KP 109 E's and I must have a 110 of some kind in the stash ?
A twin engined version would be more practical.
I have also been thinking about a single seat fighter Me 110 - shorter fuselage and wings (sorry Kit).
I glued the tail parts on today so we'll have no more heretical talk of longer fuselage or bigger tail surfaces.
I will probably be adding an additional fin under the tail. Mainly for moving the tail wheel back and down but with the secondary purpose of adding a touch more directional stability.
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I discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
That is looking very good :thumbsup: ( I think my Mossiefire would have you in a dogfight though ;) ;D )
SHORTER? wings??? :o :o :o
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
Quote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
I am using a 1/72 Italeri Me 110 G4/R3. Fit is horrible.
I am in i think , must have a nice early 109 left , and some wings will be found also ... :thumbsup:
See you .
Quote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
That's the one I thought I had ? Although it was the nightfighter version, must have sold it on :unsure:
Probably go for an Airfix or Eduard E so I can combine with an E 109 for a BoB era, or just later version.
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 02, 2023, 06:16:41 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
That's the one I thought I had ? Although it was the nightfighter version, must have sold it on :unsure:
Probably go for an Airfix or Eduard E so I can combine with an E 109 for a BoB era, or just later version.
Not bragging but I've got 3 Eduard 109s..E1..E3 and a G4.. now and they are the weekend edition but mate they are beautiful kits..well worth the coin 😉 👍
Quote from: zenrat on August 02, 2023, 03:53:00 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
I am using a 1/72 Italeri Me 110 G4/R3. Fit is horrible.
Well to be honest Fred I have no idea which one mine was..was a long minute ago when I had it but I do remember it was quite good....yours I'll bet is much newer than my...I was still in my teens when I got that one ;D
Bf 109 wind tunnel model modified to test Me 110 wing, nacelle and empennage design.
bf-109_110TRI.jpg
This is going to be awesome! Can't wait to see more! :thumbsup:
Quote from: jcf on August 02, 2023, 03:02:29 PMBf 109 wind tunnel model modified to test Me 110 wing, nacelle and empennage design.
bf-109_110TRI.jpg
Ah, so they beat me to it ? ;D Thanks for that Jon :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 03, 2023, 12:25:48 AMAh, so they beat me to it ? ;D Thanks for that Jon :thumbsup:
But they only built a wind tunnel model, it's 1.2 metres long, and you're modelling the REAL thing.................. ;)
Quote from: Wardukw on August 02, 2023, 11:13:24 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 02, 2023, 06:16:41 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
That's the one I thought I had ? Although it was the nightfighter version, must have sold it on :unsure:
Probably go for an Airfix or Eduard E so I can combine with an E 109 for a BoB era, or just later version.
Not bragging but I've got 3 Eduard 109s..E1..E3 and a G4.. now and they are the weekend edition but mate they are beautiful kits..well worth the coin 😉 👍
I'm not bragging either but i've got two 1/72 Eduard Me 110s. They are also beautifull. I hesitate to whiff them (other than paint whiffs) but one will probably get the chop. Either as a single seat fighter or an asymmetric two seater.
Quote from: zenrat on August 03, 2023, 05:16:13 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 02, 2023, 11:13:24 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 02, 2023, 06:16:41 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
That's the one I thought I had ? Although it was the nightfighter version, must have sold it on :unsure:
Probably go for an Airfix or Eduard E so I can combine with an E 109 for a BoB era, or just later version.
Not bragging but I've got 3 Eduard 109s..E1..E3 and a G4.. now and they are the weekend edition but mate they are beautiful kits..well worth the coin 😉 👍
I'm not bragging either but i've got two 1/72 Eduard Me 110s. They are also beautifull. I hesitate to whiff them (other than paint whiffs) but one will probably get the chop. Either as a single seat fighter or an asymmetric two seater.
Still not bragging but I've got A Eduard Me 110 in 48th and it's a profipack one and I know exactly what you mean Fred...they're just so damn nice ya just don't want to hack one..even thou a single seater ain't hacking one to badly and I do like the sound of that .
Quote from: zenrat on August 03, 2023, 05:16:13 AMI'm not bragging either but i've got two 1/72 Eduard Me 110s. They are also beautifull. I hesitate to whiff them (other than paint whiffs) but one will probably get the chop. Either as a single seat fighter or an asymmetric two seater.
I've been tempted on ocaision by the various boxings, but been put off by the fear that some of the earlier Eduard kits can be very fiddly builds.
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 04, 2023, 01:47:04 AMQuote from: zenrat on August 03, 2023, 05:16:13 AMI'm not bragging either but i've got two 1/72 Eduard Me 110s. They are also beautifull. I hesitate to whiff them (other than paint whiffs) but one will probably get the chop. Either as a single seat fighter or an asymmetric two seater.
I've been tempted on ocaision by the various boxings, but been put off by the fear that some of the earlier Eduard kits can be very fiddly builds.
I was amazed at how many bits there are in the 48th version I have...it's bloody scary 😳
Quote from: zenrat on August 03, 2023, 05:16:13 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 02, 2023, 11:13:24 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 02, 2023, 06:16:41 AMQuote from: Wardukw on August 01, 2023, 09:24:26 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on August 01, 2023, 05:51:56 AMI discovered that I don't have a 110 in the stash ? :unsure: Could have sworn I had. Never mind it's something to look out for next show I'm at.
Chris the Italeri Me110 in 72nd is worth looking out for..it's super cheap and good for wiffery and it's quite a nice kit too 👌
That's the one I thought I had ? Although it was the nightfighter version, must have sold it on :unsure:
Probably go for an Airfix or Eduard E so I can combine with an E 109 for a BoB era, or just later version.
Not bragging but I've got 3 Eduard 109s..E1..E3 and a G4.. now and they are the weekend edition but mate they are beautiful kits..well worth the coin 😉 👍
I'm not bragging either but i've got two 1/72 Eduard Me 110s. They are also beautifull. I hesitate to whiff them (other than paint whiffs) but one will probably get the chop. Either as a single seat fighter or an asymmetric two seater.
Many, many moons ago I modified the Fujimi 1/48th Me 110 into a two seat night-fighter with retractable oblique
guns. I used the quad .50 guns from the turret for the Monogram P-61, they were pivoted to come up through the
top of the fuselage. The new section replaced the rear section of the cockpit and the aft canopy. I cut slots for the
gun barrels and made minor modifications to the guns to make the M2s look more like the 13mm MG 131.
The notion was that the retractable guns would allow for the aircraft to operate at a higher speed and that four MG
131 firing a combination of ball, explosive and incendiary ammunition at a high-rate of fire from large ammo tanks
would produce a heavy enough volume of fire to still be effective. The higher speed allowing for more interceptions
on a single sortie.
Got any pics?
Started PSR on the wing roots and underside centre section today.
Dear Zenrat.
Only good ideas are worth to copy them , and so i hope you enjoy my first build with props , started by your Dreistörer :thumbsup:
At the planning of the build and the search for all the props i never used i found a wreck of a FW 190 , and so it became that instead of a 109 .
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Will start a new Thread for that .
Thank you very much and carry on !
Quote from: zenrat on August 05, 2023, 05:35:30 AMGot any pics?
Built it around 1980 and it's long gone.
Quote from: jcf on August 06, 2023, 04:07:01 PMQuote from: zenrat on August 05, 2023, 05:35:30 AMGot any pics?
Built it around 1980 and it's long gone.
Shame.
I wonder if they ever trialled the Me-410 barbettes on a Me-110?
Quote from: zenrat on August 07, 2023, 05:07:43 AMI wonder if they ever trialled the Me-410 barbettes on a Me-110?
I'm sure they did in WhiffWorld............. ;)
Quote from: zenrat on August 01, 2023, 04:21:58 AMI glued the tail parts on today so we'll have no more heretical talk of longer fuselage or bigger tail surfaces.
Well there goes about 98% of what I was going to comment with... ;D
Very interesting, looking forward to seeing it finished. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Flyer on August 08, 2023, 06:41:32 AM...Very interesting, looking forward to seeing it finished. :thumbsup:
Me too. ;)
Seriously though, the tail surfaces are too small in comparison with the wings and i'd change them if I was taking this seriously...
...but i'm not, i'm just having fun, so they stay. :wacko:
Well see if this changes your mind on that:
Split the 110's tailplane in half, cut out some of the elevators so the 109's rudder can move, and then it would be triple engine and triple fin's.
Hmmmmmmm, we'll see. You have got me thinking about it...
Sanding today. First stage PSR mostly levelled and then I glued on an intake under the centre engine.
PSR - sanding and more putty where indicated.
Removed intake under centre engine and re attached it straight.
Scratchbuilt additional radiator under port wing for centre engine.
Thought about Brad F's suggestion some more.
:angel:
I got out the Me.110 tails which go with the wings.
The fins are significantly bigger than the 109 tail so I will not be using them.
But I have added additional finnage beneath the rear fuselage and begun extending the rudder.
Bugger, looking at (admittedly different scales) 3 views of them both I would've (and actually did) assumed that the opposite was true, the 110's fin's look so tiny... *Shrug*
Oh well, onwards :thumbsup:
They would have worked if I removed the 109 fin but then their size emphasised the shortness of the rear fuselage.
Maybe I could have grafted on an entire 110 rear fuselage?
Anyhoo, that's couldabeen.
I've now added a ventral fin running from the trailing edge to the rudder which carriers a fairing (spat?) for the tail wheel.
A touch more PSR and she'll be ready for paint. Although I should probly test the sit with the 110 undercarriage before that.
A progresograph.
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Oh....
The ventral fin changes the profile a lot.
What is the plan for the main wheels? On the nacelles? The new tail wheel position would change the stance on the ground a lot, with 109 wheels (which might be a bit weak with all the engines).
Quote from: perttime on August 23, 2023, 05:42:34 AMOh....
The ventral fin changes the profile a lot.
It does, doesn't it
:blink:
But I can see how that's going to prevent a ridiculously nose-up stance when on its feet. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Do I sense some disappointment?
Main UC will be Me.110 items mounted in the normal way.
You just did something that I didn't expect. Which is half the fun :thumbsup:
Are the unused fins redundant? I've a bf110 kit missing a fin who could give them a good (well, goodish) home if you don't have plans for 'em
Quite liking the Ventral fin idea.
Three engines.. almost indicates a possible Regia Aeronautica Scheme possibility. The Italian penchant for tri engined aircraft would fit this build.
I like the overall look of this a lot. Is there room in that ventral fin for a tail hook? I see Navy markings on it!
Quote from: kerick on August 23, 2023, 04:34:54 PMI like the overall look of this a lot. Is there room in that ventral fin for a tail hook? I see Navy markings on it!
Similar thoughts crossed my mind :angel:
Well, it's going to be operating with the Himmelreitter Fliegende Teufel which is a mercenary group flying for the Mediterrorean free anarchies (see here (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=44239.msg784479#msg784479) and here) (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=41084.msg698355#msg698355). I suppose they could have a naval wing operating from carriers. :mellow:
Quote from: Lost Cosmonauts on August 23, 2023, 08:28:15 AMAre the unused fins redundant? I've a bf110 kit missing a fin who could give them a good (well, goodish) home if you don't have plans for 'em
Sorry mate, no. The idea of a stretched single engined Me.109 (110 rear fuselage and tail) has grabbed me so I will be using them.
I offered up the 110 legs today. Stance is good. :thumbsup:
Here is a pic of the underside so i can show off the scratchbuilt third radiator.
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Nice work matey 👍
Paint. Needs another thinned coat of both upper shades.
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looking very cool so far :mellow: :mellow: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Vostoc7 on September 03, 2023, 04:24:16 AMlooking very cool so far :mellow: :mellow: :thumbsup:
It is indeed.
Quote from: zenrat on September 03, 2023, 04:07:46 AMPaint. Needs another thinned coat of both upper shades.
Which colours are they, in RLM numbers of course? ;D
Uppers are RLM74 & RLM75.
Undersides are RLM84
All Vallejo acrylics.
What i'm aiming for (bearing in mind this is an aircraft from an anime) is Fleet Air Arm scheme with WW2 Luftwaffe splinter camo upper surfaces.
I'm liking that! :thumbsup:
Quote from: zenrat on September 03, 2023, 05:07:13 AMUppers are RLM74 & RLM75.
Undersides are RLM84
All Vallejo acrylics.
Excellent, many thanks. :thumbsup:
Oh that's yummy ..very yummy Fred 😋 ;D
I really like this! Excellent job and colors! I want to make one now! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Oldpanzer1 on September 05, 2023, 10:00:27 AMI really like this! Excellent job and colors! I want to make one now! :thumbsup:
Been having the same thoughts, but Ive been to scared to say it out loud :wacko:
hanks folks.
Gloss cleared today. I'll be sorting some transfers out from the folders tomorrow.
Quote from: Wardukw on September 05, 2023, 10:52:01 PMQuote from: Oldpanzer1 on September 05, 2023, 10:00:27 AMI really like this! Excellent job and colors! I want to make one now! :thumbsup:
Been having the same thoughts, but Ive been to scared to say it out loud :wacko:
I've been thinking about Hornet wings on a Spitfire and Tigercat wings on a Hellcat.
Quote from: zenrat on September 06, 2023, 05:19:05 AMhanks folks.
Gloss cleared today. I'll be sorting some transfers out from the folders tomorrow.
Quote from: Wardukw on September 05, 2023, 10:52:01 PMQuote from: Oldpanzer1 on September 05, 2023, 10:00:27 AMI really like this! Excellent job and colors! I want to make one now! :thumbsup:
Been having the same thoughts, but Ive been to scared to say it out loud :wacko:
I've been thinking about Hornet wings on a Spitfire and Tigercat wings on a Hellcat.
OK I could do the Hornet wings on the Spitfire and I do love the idea of Tigercat wings on a Hellcat ..that's sounds great 👍
No chance of finding another Tigercat here ..finding the first one was a miracle another would be the end of the world :wacko:
That's looking good !
Thanks Cap'n.
Quote from: Wardukw on September 06, 2023, 10:15:40 AMQuote from: zenrat on September 06, 2023, 05:19:05 AMhanks folks.
Gloss cleared today. I'll be sorting some transfers out from the folders tomorrow.
Quote from: Wardukw on September 05, 2023, 10:52:01 PMQuote from: Oldpanzer1 on September 05, 2023, 10:00:27 AMI really like this! Excellent job and colors! I want to make one now! :thumbsup:
Been having the same thoughts, but Ive been to scared to say it out loud :wacko:
I've been thinking about Hornet wings on a Spitfire and Tigercat wings on a Hellcat.
OK I could do the Hornet wings on the Spitfire and I do love the idea of Tigercat wings on a Hellcat ..that's sounds great 👍
No chance of finding another Tigercat here ..finding the first one was a miracle another would be the end of the world :wacko:
Ah, but you are thinking too big (literally). I am talking 1/72.
Transfers on today.
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Mate I would be talking 48th but even my extremely low level of common sense knows that's not a bright idea ;D
72nd would be the way to go for this sort of thing .
That's really coming together now Fred..looks better to with the WW1 German crosses :thumbsup:
Adding the decals always brings out the 'properness' in a model I reckon. :thumbsup:
It would look better in lozenge with the Imperial LSK crosses.
But, thats just me
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 07, 2023, 11:22:06 AMAdding the decals always brings out the 'properness' in a model I reckon. :thumbsup:
Agreed Kit 👍..brings the model to life I reckon. ;D
Quote from: scooter on September 07, 2023, 11:40:25 AMIt would look better in lozenge with the Imperial LSK crosses.
But, thats just me
Oh Scoot mate..brilliant it would look tho I think Fred's opinion might be a different one if he had to paint it 🤔 😅
Decal sets FTW ??? :lol:
The markings?
I can but quote from Guide to My Sky the Free Winds (published by zenrat-javelin press © 2017).
Forced from their homeland by the Empiricum during the Purgeric Expulsions of the Spring of Blades the proud warriors of the Himmelreitter Fliegende Teufel welcomed with open arms the chance to strike back against those who had driven them to the very edges of what had once been the Holy German Empire.
I think I have some lozenge transfers left over from a little Fokker. I'll have to see what I can do on the next of my anime builds. Although I really should attempt something from the other side next.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 07, 2023, 11:22:06 AMAdding the decals always brings out the 'properness' in a model I reckon. :thumbsup:
Absolutely
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
von Richthofen's new machine? :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Vostoc7 on September 09, 2023, 03:20:14 AMvon Richthofen's new machine? :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: :thumbsup:
Unless its for his brother Lothar, or cousin Wolfram.
Nah it's Lloyd Rickover. A former sign-writer from Daws Park who chucked it all in to seek fortune and adventure fighting in the skies of the free winds...
The family name was changed by an immigration official when they immigrated to South Australia in 1919.
"Mate, you can't be calling yourself that. You're in 'straya now. You mob need a name people can spell."
Quote from: zenrat on September 10, 2023, 06:01:45 AMNah it's Lloyd Rickover. A former sign-writer from Daws Park who chucked it all in to seek fortune and adventure fighting in the skies of the free winds...
The family name was changed by an immigration official when they immigrated to South Australia in 1919.
"Mate, you can't be calling yourself that. You're in 'straya now. You mob need a name people can spell."
Hahaha 😀 😆 😂
Loved that :thumbsup:
Canopy on. Legs and wheels on. Exhausts on (centre pair scratchbuilt). Props are painted and ready to go on. UC doors and tanks need clearing.
Current armament is two guns above the centre engine. I'm thinking of adding air to air rockets under the outer wings.
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No Motorkanone?
The exhausts look pretty elaborate. Is it a night fighter?
No motorkanone.
The Italeri Me.110 kit was a nightfighter and had no other exhausts. I used them though because I liked the look of them. I've never been keen on the standard Me.110s "zoomy headers".
Looking good sir :thumbsup:
Looking very good indeed 👌 👍 😀
Very good looking !
Nice!! :mellow: :wub: :thumbsup:
Thanks folks.
Nearly finished. Just got to attach additional wing weapons, touch up some paint, and write a load of bollocks for the backstory.
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Very nice.. the entire look has come together very well :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Nice :thumbsup:
Finished. Awaiting completion of the accompanying story.
The World of My Sky the Free Winds – A Dieselpunk Anime from Studio zenrat.
Messerschultz Me 109-J5 Dreistörer
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53221826413_0a536edf17_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p62LLM)Me 109 Dreistörer - 13 (https://flic.kr/p/2p62LLM) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
When the great air fleets of the Mediterrorean free anarchies required long range fighter escorts to protect them on their drive to project revenge, retribution, justice and freedom into the heart of the Polish Mechtocratic Empiricum they did as their fathers and their forefather before them had done and turned to mercenary skyclans.
Driven from their homeland by the Empiricum during the Purgeric Expulsions of the Spring of Blades the proud warriors of the Himmelreitter Fliegende Teufel welcomed with open arms the chance to strike back against those who had driven them to the very edges of what had once been the Holy German Empire.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53221901659_b5c260a392_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p63a98)Me 109 Dreistörer - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2p63a98) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
A single seat general purpose heavy fighter from the great floating megopolis of Tanganyikatown, the Messerschultz Me 109-J (Joaquin) Dreistörer was powered by three Deutscher-Burundi DB 605 engines. The J5 variant was optimised for high altitude operation from the flying carriers of the Tuniso-Libyan Sky Whale cohort with three stage supercharged engines, pressurised cockpit, heavy duty undercarriages, and an arrestor hook. Folding wings were not deemed necessary due to there being no shortage of space inside the Sky Whales' hanger decks.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53222019435_8910e97975_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p63L9K)Me 109 Dreistörer - 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2p63L9K) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Fixed armament on the J5 was a pair of synchronised Vektor SS-34 20mm motorkanone mounted in front of the cockpit firing through the centre propellor. Other variants had twin synchronised guns on top of the wing nacelles and some even had up to three larger motorkanones firing through the propellor hubs. The J5 sacrificed fixed weapons for speed and range but had hardpoints under the outer wings for additional weapons should they be required.
Fitted for night interception missions, the aircraft pictured here is fitted with a pair of 85mm Sternenlicht-Raketenkanone starshell guns. Dreistörers thus fitted would be guided to Empiricum skyfleets by the Sky Whale's radar, before climbing above them and illuminating them with starshell rockets for the waiting Nachtkämpferschwarms which would fall upon them like the Golden Horde upon an unsuspecting township.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53222019230_2d227bdda1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p63L6d)Me 109 Dreistörer - 19 (https://flic.kr/p/2p63L6d) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
The concept of the close coupled trimotor heavy fighter proved very popular in the second third of the Twentieth Century with, as we shall see, a plethora of similar designs being produced by various manufactories, factropoli, enginerring guilds, engineering states, state engineering bureaus, and assorted aeronauticalities across the Mediterrorean free anarchies, the Polish Mechtocratic Empiricum, the Amorican Cofederation, and many of the other varied sociopoliticanisational pseudo nations scattered across the disc we call home.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53221516801_3c647be995_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p61bJD)Me 109 Dreistörer - 22 (https://flic.kr/p/2p61bJD) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
The Model.
AZ Messerschmit Me 109 G6 fuselage.
Italeri Messerschmit Me 110 G4/R3 wings.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53220648312_78ea62766a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p5VJyG)Me 109 Dreistörer - 23 (https://flic.kr/p/2p5VJyG) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
That's sweet! :thumbsup:
Story's good, too, but my brain was having a bit of trouble decyphering/pronouncing various words & phrases. :blink: :thumbsup:
That's come out really well mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 29, 2023, 06:24:54 AMStory's good, too, but my brain was having a bit of trouble decyphering/pronouncing various words & phrases. :blink: :thumbsup:
I know what you mean my brain kept thinking of Mongols, Tartars and the Byzantine Empire ;)
Really great looking build :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ( I must read the BS ;D )
I had to shake my head sideways to get rid of the excess of syllables after reading the magnificent back story. ;D
Both it and the model are SUPERB! Nice one Fred. :thumbsup:
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Thanks folks.
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 29, 2023, 06:28:05 AMThat's come out really well mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 29, 2023, 06:24:54 AMStory's good, too, but my brain was having a bit of trouble decyphering/pronouncing various words & phrases. :blink: :thumbsup:
I know what you mean my brain kept thinking of Mongols, Tartars and the Byzantine Empire ;)
It's an Anime. Think of it as having been written by scriptwriters with no grasp of history or geography and then translated from Japanese to English by someone who doesn't speak either language well. ;D
That is superb :wub:
The first completed photo got me imagining a tri-engined Whirlwind.
Thanks Comrade.
I think that pic is my favourite.
Quote from: zenrat on September 30, 2023, 03:17:25 AMIt's an Anime. Think of it as having been written by scriptwriters with no grasp of history or geography and then translated from Japanese to English by someone who doesn't speak either language well. ;D
I could mention a fair few historical movies and some supposedly serious history books that could qualify for that description ;D
Looking amazing mate....totally love this 😀 😍