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Title: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2024, 06:37:11 AM
Well this is what I'm starting with. If I'm honest I've probably bitten off a bit more that I can chew for various reasons, but if I can give it a serious go then that will at least be some improvement on what I've achieved over the last few months  :-\  So in a way it's getting used in an attempt to get my enthusiasm up and running.

He 162C Box.jpgHe 162C Instructions.jpgHe 162C Sprues.jpg

The plastic is a bit soft, although the detail is quite nice in places and there's a fair bit of flash which doesn't bother me , but it's the sprue attachment points that are going to be a pain to clean up  :banghead:

Finish ? It will use one of the options provided in the box.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: The Chaos on June 08, 2024, 10:20:05 AM
 :mellow:  Project
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2024, 01:35:42 AM
Well as there was no football yesterday  :angel:  I managed to get the sub-assemblies assembled, major parts cleaned up and a little paint on the insides. Fit isn't bad, but the instructions are.........  :banghead:  Difficult to follow/understand in places and in one just plain wrong. Follow them and you'd end up with something Tophe would have been proud of  ;D Maybe I've allowed the current Airfix style ones to spoil me ?  :angel:

It's looking like a 2 week project if I'm honest, particularly as I'm out today and Thursday, but still I'm viewing it more as a Mojo stimulant rather than anything else, so we shall see.

Onwards and upwards, or if all else fails find the nearest pub  :cheers:

Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: Mossie on June 09, 2024, 02:45:33 AM
Nice project.  <_<

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 08, 2024, 06:37:11 AMSo in a way it's getting used in an attempt to get my enthusiasm up and running.

That's the main thing Chris.  If you finish by the deadline it's a bonus.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2024, 04:30:06 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2024, 01:35:42 AM...Onwards and upwards, or if all else fails find the nearest pub  :cheers:



Per ardua ad taberna?
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 10, 2024, 05:58:07 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 09, 2024, 04:30:06 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2024, 01:35:42 AM...Onwards and upwards, or if all else fails find the nearest pub  :cheers:



Per ardua ad taberna?

Oh I have to get a blazer badge made with that as the motto  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 11, 2024, 05:48:57 AM
Spent far to long detailing an interior that won't be seen, but that's life  :angel:  Now just have to fit the interior sub-assemblies, cockpit and undercarriage bays, and then hope the fuselage halves close ok. Where's the fingers crossed emoji when you need it ?  :rolleyes:

One possible issue to come is that unlike the Special Hobby 132 (a gorgeous kit) the engine "pod" isn't moulded separately and given where the wings fit, if there is a gap between the upper wing and fuselage it is going to be a pig to fix. There is hardly any room at all to work in. Still face that when and if I have to.

Just been informed I'm out Sunday, so as I'm not around tomorrow as well I'll be glad to get a complete airframe by Saturday evening. Still if I do then it means I'll only be a week late.  ;D
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 12, 2024, 06:14:45 AM
Managed to get a little bit more done than I expected yesterday  :thumbsup:

The main undercarriage bay went into the fuselage as though it was designed to, which of course it was  :angel:  :thumbsup:

The cockpit sub-assembly needed a little bit of help before it would fit, but nothing a little work with a sharp blade couldn't fix.

As for the nose wheel undercarriage bay/cockpit console ? It hasn't a hope in hell of fitting no matter what you do. So in the end I gave up and boxed the nose wheel bay in. You wouldn't see the console even if you did manage by some miracle to fit it. You probably have a choice of fitting the main cockpit sub-assembly, or part of it and the bay/console.

I then thought I'd test fit the fuselage halves, and I must admit I was surprised. They go together fairly well, certainly they enclose the interior sub-assemblies  :thumbsup: Yes there is some seam scapping/sanding needed, but not much and there are certainly no gaps. I've managed to get the two fuselage halves slightly out of alignment, but it's miniscule. The one downside for the purists is that the panel lines on the fuselage halves don't match up on the underside, but panel lines have never bothered me  :rolleyes:

One other oddity is that the Peewit canopy masks don't really fit, they are probably about 30% bigger than they need to be. Now this is rather odd as I've used lots of their masks in the past and they are as good as Eduard in my opinion. They can be used, but you need to trim them to size a tad  :unsure:  I'm certain this is not me, but I can't guarantee that.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2024, 12:49:56 AM
Well that's it. I have an airframe, which I'm pleased with, but there will be no farther progress before the deadline for various reasons.

Still it's achieved the main goal I set myself which was to get the mojo up and running again  :thumbsup:

I'll move it Tuesday along with any others I'm requested to.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: Weaver on June 16, 2024, 02:18:32 AM
Well never mind Chris: if you ended up with a nice model then it's a win, isn't it?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 17, 2024, 06:26:36 AM
Yup, and as said it got the Mojo up and running again  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on June 19, 2024, 06:19:15 AM
Moved 'cause I asked myself to, mind you I then immediately forgot  :angel:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 10, 2024, 05:41:39 AM
A little progress made as mentioned in my Blog. I now have a a complete fuselage/wings/tailplanes assemble and now need to start on the psr, which will take some time  :angel:

It has to be said however that the wings are a remarkably good fit, the tail plane less so. As said elsewhere it's a strange old mix.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 23, 2024, 05:41:36 AM
PSR continues, or if I'm honest has resumed, but I must admit I'm reaching the point of diminishing returns and I'm near the point of going "sod it, no one will notice". Then the "goodie gremlin" in my brain will go "but you'll know it's there" whilst the bad one will go "but who else will ?". After they've got a good old internal tussle going on in my brain they'll go down the pub together and share a pint or two whilst muttering "job well done then"  :drink:  :angel:

This isn't a bad kit by any means it's just that some of the areas requiring psr are very difficult to get to. The engine pod is moulded along with the rest of the fuselage, not separate as the SH one is, and this makes the upper wing/fuselage joint really awkward to get to, and the lower one isn't much better. Still onwards and upwards as my old gym master used to say. Why I've no idea, but he did  :angel:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: Old Wombat on July 23, 2024, 06:38:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 23, 2024, 05:41:36 AMStill onwards and upwards as my old gym master used to say. Why I've no idea, but he did  :angel:

Mary Church Terrell (born 1863) is often referred to. She said this:

"And so, lifting as we climb, onward and upward we go, struggling and striving, and hoping that the buds and blossoms of our desires will burst into glorious fruition ere long. With courage, born of success achieved in the past, with a keen sense of the responsibility which we shall continue to assume, we look forward to a future large with promise and hope. Seeking no favors because of our color, nor patronage because of our needs, we knock at the bar of justice, asking an equal chance."

C.S. Lewis (born 1898) is sometimes cited as well for a quotation:

"Onward and Upward! To Narnia and the North!"

There are other, less direct potential sources but I feel these two uses of the words in correct order are the most probable sources.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: kitbasher on July 23, 2024, 10:30:12 AM
Fuselage 'inspired' by the old FROG kit, perhaps?
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 24, 2024, 06:11:55 AM
Thank you Mr Wombat  :thumbsup:

Quote from: kitbasher on July 23, 2024, 10:30:12 AMFuselage 'inspired' by the old FROG kit, perhaps?

Possibly, but I never built the Frog kit so can't really say.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 24, 2024, 07:12:24 AM
The AZ 162 owes a lot to the Dragon one. Despite some knacka on Facebook saying otherwise.  Enough has been changed to make it legal.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 25, 2024, 01:12:03 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 24, 2024, 07:12:24 AMThe AZ 162 owes a lot to the Dragon one. Despite some knacka on Facebook saying otherwise.  Enough has been changed to make it legal.

I think a lot of their kits "owe something to something else". Perhaps that's why there's such a disparity in quality across the ranges (both AZ and KP) ranging from their terrific, in my opinion, Tempest V/VI (the Mk II is something else  :rolleyes: ) and Me 109's, to things like this and their P-40's. OK but hard work. Then of course there's some of their admitted "re-pops" which can be "interesting  :angel:  Mind you as ranges I'm quite fond of them for the wide range of subjects they do and I'd like to see them at Telford again, but that's unlikely.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: UhuFin on July 27, 2024, 02:19:12 PM
Very interesting project! I really hope to see the final pictures!

I have also built this kit a year ago and it really was hard to work for something that isn't as accurate as Special Hobby's kit. Here is my completed model:
(https://i.imgur.com/P4E0BIFh.jpg)

I confirm it has taken a lot of parts and details from Dragon's kit. Some copied parts were infact improved like the elevator. Dragon's kit's elevator has too wide span. AZ model kit's elevator is mostly copied but has the right span, so I used that one in my Dragon kit making my "Nervenklau" look even better.

Here is my building blog: https://www.scalemates.com/profiles/mate.php?id=72957&p=albums&album=94564&i=239#239 (https://www.scalemates.com/profiles/mate.php?id=72957&p=albums&album=94564&i=239#239)
I also built the Frog kit and it was unpleasant also though had fewer parts.
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 28, 2024, 12:58:40 AM
That's wonderful  :thumbsup:  I like the wooden wings and tail planes in particular  :bow:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 28, 2024, 04:02:26 AM
Just what Chris said.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: su27rules on July 28, 2024, 08:04:52 AM
 Wonderful !! :wub:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on July 30, 2024, 05:35:43 AM
Well I picked this up again this morning after I'd sent the debate about "reaching the point of diminishing returns" back to the Upper Chamber and psr has continued. Probably within one more session of paint being applied, so I dug out the Colourcoats I need  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: He 162C
Post by: NARSES2 on August 03, 2024, 05:31:37 AM
To think I origionaly started this as my entry in this year's "One Week Build"  :angel:

Anyway she is currently laying on her back with her legs in the air, but if she thinks that inducement is going to make me think any differently of her then she's totally mistaken  :rolleyes:

As you might be able to infer from the above undercarriage legs are attached and glue is drying. The sprue attachment stubs on these are probably at the most awkward place to get to in order to clean up that AZ could of thought of.  :banghead:

Still "progress" albeit slow.