This will be pretty much OOB as the PR.6 looks almost the same as the FR.5. So as I now have a reasonably clear model bench and a few days off work due to a bad back, which is now almost better, a simple colour scheme and I have finished a Swift for a One Week Group Build in the past, let's give it a go. The first thing was to locate the swift. Easy with my foolproof method of labelling all the boxes that go into the loft and listing the contents. Wrong :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Somehow I have ended up with two boxes numbered Thirty-Four :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Anyway, next time I am in the loft I will take a pen with me and change the number on one of the boxes to Forty-five. :rolleyes:
So one Swift removed from storage leaving only five more. ;D
I'm not very knowledgeable about PR squadrons, so I will take advice on squadrons and markings and look through the Warpaint book on Meteors which covers the PR versions of that aircraft.
Gondor
Give the pilot a Brownie camera and it a PR, no problem!
2 Sqdn if it's based in Germany, as were many of the FR5s, 53 was often a PR unit, plus of course 13 Sqdn when they weren't flying Meteor PR19s . ;D
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2024, 11:29:42 AM2 Sqdn if it's based in Germany, as were many of the FR5s, 53 was often a PR unit, plus of course 13 Sqdn when they weren't flying Meteor PR19s . ;D
I will have to look at the squadron codes and the like to see if I can do Thirteen Squadron then, just a different flight within the squadron to the Meteor PR19 of course :rolleyes:
Gondor
No belly tank, the cameras went in the fuselage space occupied by the guns - the Franks datafile gives text info as to where - and the tank would obscure them so it's wing mounted drop tanks. That's what I did when I did my PR6 from the F7.
Eurodecal did a good sheet for Meteor FR9/PR10.
Quote from: The Wooksta! on June 08, 2024, 02:51:32 PMNo belly tank, the cameras went in the fuselage space occupied by the guns - the Franks datafile gives text info as to where - and the tank would obscure them so it's wing mounted drop tanks. That's what I did when I did my PR6 from the F7.
Eurodecal did a good sheet for Meteor FR9/PR10.
Good point about the belly tank Lee and thanks for the memory jog about the Eurodecal set, I'm sure I have that somewhere.
A mutual friend sent me a drawing for the aircraft so a hatch and black windows will do. The leading edges for the wings are different going by the drawing I have seen.
Gondor
Quote from: kerick on June 08, 2024, 10:43:07 AMGive the pilot a Brownie camera and it a PR, no problem!
Given the state of the country's finances at the time he'd probably be expected to supply his own :rolleyes:
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2024, 01:40:47 AMQuote from: kerick on June 08, 2024, 10:43:07 AMGive the pilot a Brownie camera and it a PR, no problem!
Given the state of the country's finances at the time he'd probably be expected to supply his own :rolleyes:
😂😂😂
And get the film developed/printed!
First progress report.
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The initial PSR has been done to the fuselage sides, the intakes will get sanded back later today and the wing modifications have been carried out and covered in filler so they can be sanded back tomorrow. I really want the work on the wing to have time to dry before it gets sanded back. Saying that I should be able to fit them to the fuselage and then sand back the filler over the modifications.
Gondor
Quote from: kitbasher on June 09, 2024, 03:28:34 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2024, 01:40:47 AMQuote from: kerick on June 08, 2024, 10:43:07 AMGive the pilot a Brownie camera and it a PR, no problem!
Given the state of the country's finances at the time he'd probably be expected to supply his own :rolleyes:
And get the film developed/printed!
"Hodgkins, when will those photos of the Russian tank movements be ready?"
"I just dropped them off at Boots, Sir, they said about a week." ;D
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Last update of the day. The intakes are now painted, white, as is the trunking leading to the engine which the instructions ask to be painted black :unsure: I went with white as it made more sense to me at least. The exhaust has been painted along with the burner ring to go on the inside end of it. I shall paint some plastic card black and glue it on the interior side of the burner ring otherwise you would be able to look right through the rings of the burner. More painting tomorrow as well as fitting of parts together.
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on June 09, 2024, 02:25:09 PMThe intakes are now painted, white, as is the trunking leading to the engine which the instructions ask to be painted black :unsure:
Don't think I've ever seen black intake trunking, and I've seen a lot of aircraft. I've seen natural metal, white, or a creamy white colour, but never black.
That's the new Airfix Swift, right? The instructions call for flat white inside of the air intakes.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 10, 2024, 01:24:27 AMThat's the new Airfix Swift, right? The instructions call for flat white inside of the air intakes.
And further back it calls for Humbrol 85, coal black
Second round of PSR on the wings but the fuselage is together and some weight has been added behind the cockpit to stop it being a tail sitter. May add a little more later.
Gondor
This morning I found that I had glued a clothespeg to the nose of the Swift :banghead:
This was due to superglue running out of the air intake and down the side of the nose because I was glueing weight behind the cockpit. The clothespeg was helping to hole the fuselage in the correct orientation. Fixed now, just lost some panel lines.
Gondor
So far so good, or at least reasonably well.
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That's the wings on, so work on the joints tonight and PSR tomorrow as I am back to work though my back is starting to play up a bit.
Gondor
Better than gluing YOURself onto it Alastair! ;D
The majority of the PSR has been done, I will apply some paint later to see if there is any remedial work required or not.
The next thing on the list was to attach the moving surfaces. I decided to start with the tailplanes and realised this was an ideal time to use a jig I have had around for a year or two. I also have the space to use it as well.
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An overview of the Swift placed in the jig.
And from the rear
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The camera was not exactly level with the table but you get the idea. The two white items under the tail are pieces of paper with the top surface at the angle given in the instructions so I knew that the angle was correct.
Gondor
A quick coat of paint over the main joints to see if any additional PSR is required. I think there is one or two spots that will need attention but I will see tomorrow what turns up.
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Gondor
First coat of paint on the upper surfaces. A second coat will follow later today and tomorrow I try to work out how high the undercoat will go.
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Gondor
And that's the upper surfaces with a second coat on. I'm quite happy with the finish, tomorrow I need to start on the underside which will be fun trying to get the upper/lower demarcation worked out. I better get a move on with the undercarriage and wheels as well as the seat I suppose :-\
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Gondor
For my PR Swifts I used the base of the tailplanes as the demarcation. This is the PR6 from the Magna F7.
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It has the F7 wings as I'd got it in a Swift box with a load of Airkit bits and it was already assembled. So I went with the not unreasonable premise that RR had sorted out the reheat issues and the late production PR6 had the F7 wing for better altitude performance.
I don't have the 535 to hand, so here's an older photo.
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Thanks Lee. I had been musing about the demarcation line and whether I should go that far down or not. Having now seen the pictures of yours, that's what I shall do.
Gondor
First coat of PRU Blue is on.
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Gondor
And that's the second coat of PRU Blue on which completes the majority of the painting. The undercarriage will be added tomorrow and I will attempt to get my finger out and finish the ejector seat :rolleyes:
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Gondor
No idea if I will be finished by midnight on Sunday. The tyres have just been painted, all the undercarriage doors are on and so are the flaps. I still need to put the canopy and windscreen on, varnish the model prior to adding decals. The seat belts also need painting on the ejector seat so it could be a close one.
Gondor
Looks like I will not finish this in time. If I had started on Saturday rather than Sunday last week that extra day would have made all the difference. I should finish it by next weekend though which will not be bad for me.
Gondor
Could someone move this to Current Projects or whatever it is.
Gondor
Moved as per request
A great project for a proposed variant I was unaware of; shame it wasn't produced as those PR schemes are lovely! Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Mark
I have just done a little work on this build. I sanded some filler back down to the plastic, removed the inner main undercarriage doors as I had put them on the wrong sides, and finally touched up the PRU Blue where it had been scuffed. I might add the Medium Sea Grey where it is now missing no earlier than tomorrow, will see how the day goes though.
Gondor
:thumbsup:
After recently buying Colour Conundrums Compendium No.4, I have found that the scheme I have painted my PR6 would possibly only be appropriate for the development aircraft if at all :banghead:
So the aircraft is going to get its upper surfaces repainted. I also now have a choice of two squadrons, one is 13 Squadron, the other is 541 Squadron. I have put a request out in the Swap Shop section looking for 13 Squadron badges, I have a set of 541 badges from a Meteor decal set, although I would prefer the 13 Squadron Badges as the colour scheme is a bit more interesting.
Gondor
The Airfix Canberra PR9 had some 13 Sqdn badges on one version IIRC.
I used them on my 'PR9B', the RB-57F painted as a PR9.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 23, 2024, 03:51:25 PMThe Airfix Canberra PR9 had some 13 Sqdn badges on one version IIRC.
I used them on my 'PR9B', the RB-57F painted as a PR9.
Thanks Kit but Thorvic has found what I am looking for.
Gondor
As I need to repaint the airframe, fortunately only the upper surfaces, I decided to get the paint out and set it aside seeing I had put all my paints away after Telford. I found a set of Swift instructions which had Hataka paint numbers next to the upper surface colours. So I started to take out the paint. Only to find that I had written down the paint numbers for my Saudi Swift as I now realise, but at the time I was wondering why I needed Dark Earth for a mid 50's European Jet :unsure:
A quick look at the backs of the boxes of Hataka paint that I have bought soon corrected me and I annotated the drawing appropriately. :thumbsup:
All ready for me to get some mojo :rolleyes:
Gondor
I have been pottering around in the background for this build, looking at drawings and reading Colour Conundrum Compendium Number Four. I noticed something in one of the profiles and then managed to read the section that covered it. The aircraft I am looking at was carrying under-wing tanks. Not a problem you may say, just do as I did with my Saudi swift and use leftover Hunter pylons as the under-wing tanks look to be the same, only the profile shows them to be different :banghead:
The answer was of course staring me in the face. Use the profile to get the dimensions of the pylon in side elevation and a picture of an F.4 from the Warpaint series provides an as near head-on shop as I could wish for without having to delve any deeper into the rabbit hole. So copy one of the pages from the Conundrum book and then measure the size against an at-hand kit. The Short Stirling was the wrong length and a bit deep too, :wacko: so I tried a Supermarine Swift kit instead, which was as good as a perfect match :thumbsup: That saves a bit of maths working out different sizes. :lol:
Of course, this means that I will have to make at least two sets, one for the PR.6 and the second for the Saudi swift so it has the correct pylons. I am also going to have the perennial problem of serial numbers that go over the undercarriage doors, oh what joy :banghead: I was previously, and still probably could, just use one of the options from the kit and say the production batch which the kit aircraft was from and which was curtailed, was split with PR.6 production and the number ended up on a PR.6 rather than an FR.5 :mellow: Kit's second rule etc, etc
Things to mull about I suppose
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on December 28, 2024, 10:21:31 AMI was previously, and still probably could, just use one of the options from the kit and say the production batch which the kit aircraft was from and which was curtailed, what split with PR.6 production and the number ended up on a PR.6 rather than an FR.5 :mellow: Kit's second rule etc, etc
That would certainly save you time and effort, all of which could be ploughed back into the project in other areas, or used for the next one. Win-Win! :thumbsup: