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GROUP BUILDS => 2006 and Older Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => Group Build: Tophe Twin Tail Tribute => Topic started by: Tophe on January 22, 2006, 05:37:55 AM

Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 22, 2006, 05:37:55 AM
I have looked in my kit collection to find the next one to build. One of them was half built: Airfix Fw 189A 1/72. Though I had bought another kit of the same a few years later, having forgotten the unfinished one! And I had also got a 1/72 Czech Resin CMK Fw 189B (without glazed nose & rear pod)... What to do with all that...???
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 22, 2006, 05:38:29 AM
I have already drawn a dozen what-if Fw 189... Will I simply build 3 of them, or 2 including a twin-pod? Of course they would have the standard engines, not the radials that I kept from my first drawing (Fw 189E).
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 22, 2006, 05:38:58 AM
Finally, I plan to do something like this Fw 189 ABA nick-named Waterloo...
It would have in-line piston engines - or no engine, singing in rhythm being enough to fly...
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2006, 08:35:17 PM
Obviously, this will not be as easy as I thought... The 3 basic model are glued, while the what-if junction now must occur...
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I consider removing the rear cones to decrease the length of the 2 front pods, to have them closer and reduce the total size – that frightens me...
For the two Fw 189 twin-boom tails that will be removed, the destination will not be the garbage can but (as currently planned) use to turn twin-boom the Bv 141 and the Kiowa helicopter, simply...
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: The Rat on January 26, 2006, 09:48:18 PM
Hmmm... I'm looking for a bucket of cold water to throw over them. Wonder what the gestation period is?  :P

Quick suggestion Tophe - when you post a bunch of pictures like that, put a number on each one, that way people can pick their favourites easier.  ;)  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2006, 11:43:02 PM
Are you referring to the collection of 12 drawings above? They are not new at all...
From top to bottom, then left to right:
- Fw189S-72/144 & S-48/72, see Twin-Whirlwind topic, entry April 3, 2005
Fw189E-2 & E, see Twin-Whirlwind topic, entry July 12, 2005
- Fw189E & T, see see Twin-Whirlwind topic, entry April 2, 2005
Fw189T-2 & T-3, see Twin-Whirlwind topic, next entry April 2, 2005
- Fw119 & 119U-2, see Twin-Whirlwind topic, next entry August 15, 2005
Fw189Y, see Twin-Whirlwind topic, next entry September 30, 2005
Fw189Ez, see my (free) book "The end of Forked Ghosts"
I was just gathering them here, trying to choose what to build... :huh:  Before choosing still another one: Fw 189ABA. :wacko:  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Allan on January 27, 2006, 07:04:38 PM
Tophe

That triplet is such a great idea.

Jump into the deep end and have a go!

I'd just about be the weirdest model I have ever seen.

Allan in Canberra
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 27, 2006, 08:39:40 PM
Thanks for your so nice words Allan ^_^ , while... what is the meaning of "jumping into the deep end"? :huh:  I know the "dead end", alas :( , is it the same? it seems not, I just try to understand... :mellow:
PS. I am almost in a dead-end, actually, with my 1/72 XP-77Z (P-7117): the vacform canopies were so thin, they broke and I filled all with putty to paint them black, but sanding they still broke again... I have left this model aside not to loose enthusiasm in modelling. I will come back to it later. Maybe.
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: CanisD on January 27, 2006, 11:24:53 PM
"jumping into the deep end" refers to bravely taking action without reservation or hesitation, as if "jumping into the deep end" of a swimming pool.  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 28, 2006, 10:08:03 AM
Thanks a lot, dear teacher, this is "plonger dans le grand bain" in French, that is clear, and I will...
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on March 26, 2006, 03:10:39 AM
Update: after one tail has gone to the Bv141 and the other to the Bell Jet-Ranger, the triplex twin-boomer is taking shape. While a huge amount of sanding will have to be done before gluing the 3 elements...
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on March 30, 2006, 08:24:01 PM
An egg-189 would be nicely crazy too, as suggested by the square thumbnail at
http://www.equatorstudio.com/gallery.php?l...stroud&pageno=3 (http://www.equatorstudio.com/gallery.php?lot=stroud&pageno=3) . Most of all, a triple-egg-189 would be smaller for my shelf (if lengths were reduced, not heights increased)...
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on March 31, 2006, 09:54:03 AM
Yes, what if???
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on June 09, 2006, 08:29:14 AM
QuoteI have discovered French caricatures that I did not know yet, put on the Web in 2003-2004, made by TinTin, featured at http://miguel21.free.fr (http://miguel21.free.fr) (then click on "Croquis") with hundreds of lovely other planes...
So here is another cartoon Fw189AAA:
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In plastic, schedule to finish: Bv 141 then Flamingo then Me 262... then Fw 189.
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on August 24, 2006, 10:12:11 AM
Sanding on the pods is almost finished. And I have also cut the final front end of the booms (engine-less, propeller-less) :wacko:
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on August 24, 2006, 12:48:25 PM
You know, the germans did try out placing engines in teh center of the pods, mounted to a prop in the boom
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Brian da Basher on August 24, 2006, 08:09:54 PM
Woah Tophe, that totally rocks!!! I really love your wonderfully creative concept and your skill at pulling it off! Have you decided on a color scheme and markings yet? Will it wear your famous painted canopies that have inspired me so? Aboslutely wonderful, my friend! B)

Brian da Basher
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on August 24, 2006, 08:22:19 PM
QuoteYou know, the germans did try out placing engines in teh center of the pods, mounted to a prop in the boom
Well, I did not know that at all, and I am much interested! Tell me more, tell me more... (the only twin-boomer I known like that is the Soviet Bedunkovich OSh)
[But I think I will not use this recipe here - as there will be no landing gear, no propeller on my crazy 189]

QuoteHave you decided on a color scheme and markings yet? Will it wear your famous painted canopies that have inspired me so?
I consider an overall gloss yellow paint, with half-circle (cut in 2) RAF roundels :wacko:
And of course, there will be "black" painted canopies my way, including one in the "solid" central nose. This will be a TourBus with maybe 6 panoramic view points for passengers (and no pilot, no need, electronics are good enough) :wacko:  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on August 26, 2006, 09:05:52 PM
The 3 parts are glued together, the first layer of yellow paint is on (above).
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Remaining:
- painting yellow the underside (first layer) --> the paint can will be empty
- ordering paint (& putty for my GP-38J)
- painting the second yellow layer
- painting the black canopies
As I will be in holidays soon, in the Philippines, I will order after coming back. Finishing :)  is scheduled for November... :(  2006 yes :)
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Brian da Basher on August 27, 2006, 03:33:36 PM
Wow looking great Tophe! I will be counting the days until you're able to finish this one! Enjoy your well-earned holiday to the Philippines and say "Hi" to Art Bell for me while you're there. :D

Brian da Basher
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: John Howling Mouse on August 27, 2006, 05:48:56 PM
Looking good, Tophe.  You and your Missus have an excellent time in the Phillipines!
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on August 27, 2006, 08:13:18 PM
Quoteholiday to the Philippines and say "Hi" to Art Bell for me while you're there. :D
I did not know who was Art Bell, but Google told me he was a radio man with a Filipino wife too...
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Just like me and my US brother in law, yes...
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on August 28, 2006, 12:00:14 AM
Not a twin boom, but shows what i ment:
http://www.luft46.com/db/dbjager.html (http://www.luft46.com/db/dbjager.html)
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on August 28, 2006, 12:05:56 AM
http://www.luft46.com/mrart/mrdbj.html (http://www.luft46.com/mrart/mrdbj.html)
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on August 28, 2006, 09:40:42 AM
QuoteNot a twin boom, but shows what i ment:
http://www.luft46.com/db/dbjager.html (http://www.luft46.com/db/dbjager.html)
I've turned it twin-boom at http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...00&#entry161640 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=4626&st=400&#entry161640) ...
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on September 04, 2006, 10:50:10 AM
But tophe, youve done one already  :D

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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on November 12, 2006, 08:26:26 AM
I have received the parcel from the Modelshop and... no more gloss yellow paint, so I have turned my Triple 189 into grey color...
(still the underside then the black windows and it will be done)
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: John Howling Mouse on November 12, 2006, 09:20:25 AM
Now, a squadron of THESE would produce a very interesting presence on radar!
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on November 12, 2006, 10:40:12 AM
Yes: the radar, over-saturated, would explose. This was the first anti-radar system... endangering the heroic machines protecting England, fortunately this never entered production, because... I was not born yet!
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on November 12, 2006, 11:16:14 AM
Ahh, but in 2056, a group of german scientists built and flew replica, using the drawings of tophe. But in 2081, the replica flew into a storm, and when it came outta da storm, it was intercepted by Bf-109s! The storm had taken the plane back to the year 1940. It was forced to land, and the nazis began using it against the RAF :P

Luckily, later in 1940, a flight of harrier GR5s shot it down over southern england :lol:  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on November 12, 2006, 07:57:05 PM
(yes, more details about this time/space bubble at http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=12876 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=12876) - thanks Glenn!)
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on November 14, 2006, 10:13:42 AM
This time travel is strange... :unsure:

When i came to school this morning, i found a book about myths and conspiration theories, and opening the book, first thing i saw was  the "philedelphia experiment"!

In 1943, the US navy was attempting to make the destroyer, USS Eldridge, invisible to radar. Testing began in the summer of 1943, and was succesful to a slight degree. One test rendered the eldridge almost completely invisible, and eyewitnesses reported a greenish-blue fog around the ship. However, crew members complained of serious nausea afterwards. At that point, the experiment was altered at the request of the navy, with the new goal being invisible to radar only.Equipment was not recalibrated, and the experiment was performed again on October 28. This time, Eldridge not only became almost entirely invisible to the naked eye, but vanished from the area in a flash of blue light. Concurrent with this phenomenon, the US naval base at Norfolk, Virginia, just over 600 km (375 miles) away, reported sighting the Eldridge offshore for several minutes, whereupon the Eldridge vanished again and reappeared in Philadelphia, at the site it had originally occupied: a supposed case of accidental teleportation.

:cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: nev on November 14, 2006, 11:15:08 AM
There is actually a movie of this story The Philadelphia Experiment (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/), although made in 1984, probly before you were born  ;)  
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on November 14, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
QuoteThere is actually a movie of this story The Philadelphia Experiment (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/), although made in 1984, probly before you were born  ;)
Correct, im from 1991
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 15, 2007, 09:01:18 PM
The canopies black painting is done :) , but a tape disaster made the result very bad, and a lot of corrections remains... :(
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 16, 2007, 08:25:39 PM
Wow Tophe that model looks great! With just a little touch-up painting you can correct the blemishes where the paint bled through the tape.

It's a treat to see another one of your wonderful builds!
:cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 31, 2007, 12:05:22 AM
Here is the Fw 189ABA Waterloo, finished...
The runway is made of wood, of course, to match the seriousness of this build (and there is no risk of fire for such a glider - without flame exhaust at all).
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 31, 2007, 06:07:26 AM
Yowsa Tophe that's one of the most imaginative builds I've seen in a while! I just love the six wings....it really catches the eye! Your choice of color is superb as it really sets off the build and is a nice contrast to the dark canopies. I'd really like to see more shots of this beauty!

Brian da Basher
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Tophe on January 31, 2007, 08:43:17 PM
Thanks a lot for your nice words ^_^ , but... more pictures would show how much imperfect this model is :( ...
- the dihedral is not exactly the same for the different wings (direction: anywhere)
- the front part is raising (to ease landing?)
:wacko:
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Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 31, 2007, 08:52:20 PM
Take heart, Tophe! None of our builds are perfect. There are flaws in every one of mine. You tackled an incredibly difficult project and even with the small errors, I still think it is a thing of great beauty! I hope it occupies a deserving place of honor in your display area.
:)
Brian da Basher

P.S. I don't know if you noticed, but those dihedrals, etc. being a bit "off" only seem to add to the What-If nature of this cool model.
Title: From Fw 189 into madness
Post by: B777LR on February 09, 2007, 03:40:53 AM
:wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

Keep up the good work! Not bad at all! What is it meant to do?