Quote from: Wardukw on May 18, 2023, 02:25:16 AMI've use both and no issues since using the retarder..works a treat .

 

Vallejo flow improver (different name, same stuff) is available in 200ml bottles.  Works fine with Vallejo acrylics.  I've not tried it with Tamiya or Gunze acrylics.
I've not airbrushed Tamiya acrylics but have done so with Gunze (thinned with Tamiya thinners) and I didn't find it dried on the needle like Vallejo can.

Quote from: zenrat on May 18, 2023, 02:58:10 AMVallejo flow improver (different name, same stuff) is available in 200ml bottles.  Works fine with Vallejo acrylics.  I've not tried it with Tamiya or Gunze acrylics.
I've not airbrushed Tamiya acrylics but have done so with Gunze (thinned with Tamiya thinners) and I didn't find it dried on the needle like Vallejo can.

Thanks, Fred, that's good to know: be called retarder or flow improver, that sounds like the stuff I need   Perhaps I'll have a go with Tamiya and Gunze acrylics as well and see how I get on. I like the quick drying aspect of acrylics, but only after the paint has hit what its aimed at!

Cheers,
Mark

My primary paints are Tamiya (although the local SMS brand lacquers are becoming a very close second favourite these days) & I thin them with isopropyl alcohol  (about 2:1 Paint:IPA) & have never had a problem with them through my Iwata (by Anest) Eclipse (I've had two Iwata Neos & a Badger & broken them all but the Anest just keeps on going, no matter what abuse I seem to give her) in temperatures from over 40^oC to under 5^oC.

Quote from: Old Wombat on May 18, 2023, 08:13:58 AMMy primary paints are Tamiya (although the local SMS brand lacquers are becoming a very close second favourite these days) & I thin them with isopropyl alcohol  (about 2:1 Paint:IPA) & have never had a problem with them through my Iwata (by Anest) Eclipse (I've had two Iwata Neos & a Badger & broken them all but the Anest just keeps on going, no matter what abuse I seem to give her) in temperatures from over 40^oC to under 5^oC.

Thanks for that suggestion   I've got some isopropyl alcohol. I was planning to mix up the interior green for my RW Spitfire PR Type B - early Supermarine Green is different to IGG, apparently - and I've got a formula which uses Tamiya colours.

I've also remembered that I bought a cheap eBay special airbrush during lockdown but never used it, so I've dug it out and I'll see how it fares. Even if its only good for primer, that's something!

Cheers,
Mark

Out-of all the types of paint I've used Tamiya is the easiest to work with but I think that's just cause I've used so much more than other brands .
The Tamiya retarder works with everything I use ..which is great ..simple life then .
As for air brush types..all 7 of mine can be described as crap ..cheap nameless TradeMe (auction site here in NZ)  buys..apart from one which cost me $120nz and I need to rebuild it..needs a monster clean and Acetone will do that.
Would love a Iwata ..but would need to win lotto first..these are ouch money here so I just keep using the cheap ones..buy new needle sets and now I have a good mix of sizes to play with.
One thing you'll have noticed Mark is we all got our own ideas and you will to..what all develope our own techniques..mines quite different to Fred's and Guys but like theirs ..it works   
The next paint job I'm doing will be the most technical one I've ever attempted and I'm still trying to figure out how 🤔 🙃 😅

Quote from: Wardukw on May 18, 2023, 01:14:56 PMOut-of all the types of paint I've used Tamiya is the easiest to work with but I think that's just cause I've used so much more than other brands .
The Tamiya retarder works with everything I use ..which is great ..simple life then .
As for air brush types..all 7 of mine can be described as crap ..cheap nameless TradeMe (auction site here in NZ)  buys..apart from one which cost me $120nz and I need to rebuild it..needs a monster clean and Acetone will do that.
Would love a Iwata ..but would need to win lotto first..these are ouch money here so I just keep using the cheap ones..buy new needle sets and now I have a good mix of sizes to play with.
One thing you'll have noticed Mark is we all got our own ideas and you will to..what all develope our own techniques..mines quite different to Fred's and Guys but like theirs ..it works   
The next paint job I'm doing will be the most technical one I've ever attempted and I'm still trying to figure out how 🤔 🙃 😅

I think if there's one thing I've learned from modelling forums (fora?) its that, with painting, there are as many techniques as there are successful outcomes.

You guys have been so helpful and supportive with ideas, and I'll be giving them all a try out. I love the finish an airbrush can give but I'm definitely a novice and finding the "right" paint for me has so far proved a little elusive. I've got some Mr Color, both solvent-based and aqueous types, and some Tamiya, and I've got some Tamiya thinners and some isopropyl alcohol, so I'm all set for a few trials with the paint mule

Thanks again fellas!    

Cheers,
Mark

Ya most welcome matey ...unlike other sites we are a wealth of information and we're only to happy to help .
But be warned ..we will either lead you astray or we'll lead you completely down the wrong path ...we're pretty open to either     

Quote from: Wardukw on May 19, 2023, 12:26:12 AMYa most welcome matey ...unlike other sites we are a wealth of information and we're only to happy to help .
But be warned ..we will either lead you astray or we'll lead you completely down the wrong path ...we're pretty open to either     

I just start watching this build, the back Cockpit absolut is on my line ... interested what comes next.

I am also deep in stretching fuselage and widen Cockpits and something like that, there are so many ways to do it .  It can drive you Mad !!

Quote from: killnoizer on May 19, 2023, 03:36:07 AMI just start watching this build, the back Cockpit absolut is on my line ... interested what comes next.

I am also deep in stretching fuselage and widen Cockpits and something like that, there are so many ways to do it .  It can drive you Mad !!

Glad to have you along hope it'll be interesting Funnily enough, thinking about stretched fuselages and rearward cockpits, this morning I came across references to the Focke Wulf BMW802 high altitude fighter project - that looks like an interesting build!

Cheers,
Mark

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 18, 2023, 09:11:21 AM...Even if its only good for primer, that's something!...

Primer is important.  It's your first coat and forms the foundation for everything that follows.

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 19, 2023, 12:09:41 AM...I think if there's one thing I've learned from modelling forums (fora?) its that, with painting, there are as many techniques as there are successful outcomes...

You've only been to the "good" forums then.  I've seen some vicious spats over painting on model car forums.  Some people think that they and they alone know the "one true way" to model painting enlightenment and questioning that way is akin to getting it out, waggling it at their mum, and giving her a come hither leer.

Quote from: zenrat on May 19, 2023, 04:36:01 AM

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 18, 2023, 09:11:21 AM...Even if its only good for primer, that's something!...

Primer is important.  It's your first coat and forms the foundation for everything that follows.

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 19, 2023, 12:09:41 AM...I think if there's one thing I've learned from modelling forums (fora?) its that, with painting, there are as many techniques as there are successful outcomes...

You've only been to the "good" forums then.  I've seen some vicious spats over painting on model car forums.  Some people think that they and they alone know the "one true way" to model painting enlightenment and questioning that way is akin to getting it out, waggling it at their mum, and giving her a come hither leer.

Yes , that is sometimes like a orthodoxe religion .
Happened to me in another Board , these Keyboard warriors fight for the imagined truth ...

But only in there small space , real world and things that WORK is another thing .   Most of my near friends are real REAL specialists in their business , but we can easy talk about any job to do and decide the best way to fix any problem .

Quote from: zenrat on May 19, 2023, 04:36:01 AM

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 18, 2023, 09:11:21 AM...Even if its only good for primer, that's something!...

Primer is important.  It's your first coat and forms the foundation for everything that follows.

Quote from: 2996 Victor on May 19, 2023, 12:09:41 AM...I think if there's one thing I've learned from modelling forums (fora?) its that, with painting, there are as many techniques as there are successful outcomes...

You've only been to the "good" forums then.  I've seen some vicious spats over painting on model car forums.  Some people think that they and they alone know the "one true way" to model painting enlightenment and questioning that way is akin to getting it out, waggling it at their mum, and giving her a come hither leer.

Lol! If only.....I've seen some really nasty exchanges, really personal attacks. I can't be doing with that kind of bile when, let's face, modelling is a hobby that's supposed to be fun! I turn my back and "Run, Forest, run!" when that sort of thing kicks off.

Quote from: killnoizer on May 19, 2023, 04:58:36 AMYes , that is sometimes like a orthodoxe religion .
Happened to me in another Board , these Keyboard warriors fight for the imagined truth ...

Luckily I've never had that kind of nastiness levelled at me, although I've received some very brusque comments as answers to what seemed to me to be reasonable questions. Along the lines of "Don't you know that, you idiot?" that sort of thing, anyway. Not a good way to encourage open sharing of knowledge and modelling techniques.

Cheers,
Mark