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Started by NARSES2, June 02, 2023, 06:47:21 AM

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zenrat

Presumably it is OK to have the replacement engine completely concealed within the vehicle so long as some panels are removable for viewing?

A model car with an opening bonnet for example.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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TomZ

Quote from: zenrat on June 05, 2023, 05:04:06 AMPresumably it is OK to have the replacement engine completely concealed within the vehicle so long as some panels are removable for viewing?
A model car with an opening bonnet for example.

As long as it visible it's OK.
So open bonnet is fine

Tomz
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NARSES2

Quote from: TomZ on June 05, 2023, 04:46:01 AM3) The moderators will not get involved in the discussion on date formats, however "interesting" that discussion appears to be  ;D


All I'm going to say re the date format used is that I was taught, and have used for my whole life, either 1st March 1952 or 01/03/1952 , therefore as long as I'm typing these rules etc that's the way they will stay.  :wacko:

I've used the above date as an example because it's my birthdate.  ;D
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PR19_Kit

How about changing the form of propulsion from one which actually DOES propel the item, to one that isn't there at all? In an aircraft's case that'd end up as a glider.

I have 'form' doing this of course.  ;D

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So, going from a chemical-reaction energy engine to a potential energy->kinetic energy transition drive utilising gravitational effects as an acceleration device.
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PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Mossie

Quote from: TomZ on June 05, 2023, 04:46:01 AM2) We agree that the "RE" in re-engine means that the propulsion method is changed to a new one. So just adding an auxiliary engine will not be allowed. The new propulsion method should be the only propulsion system.

This rules out mixed propulsion however.  So converting a twin engined fighter into something like a Saunders Roe SR.177 would be out. So where a vehicle is multi engined, is it possible to re-engine some but not all of them, when the propulsion is supplementary rather than auxiliary
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Wardukw

Quote from: Mossie on June 05, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: TomZ on June 05, 2023, 04:46:01 AM2) We agree that the "RE" in re-engine means that the propulsion method is changed to a new one. So just adding an auxiliary engine will not be allowed. The new propulsion method should be the only propulsion system.

This rules out mixed propulsion however.  So converting a twin engined fighter into something like a Saunders Roe SR.177 would be out. So where a vehicle is multi engined, is it possible to re-engine some but not all of them, when the propulsion is supplementary rather than auxiliary
To keep things simple Mossie mate if your plane is a twin and powered by say 2 radials then it's fine to remove those and swap em with 2 say Griffons..what ever the swap is..  it's replaced with 2 forms of propulsion of the same type..no supplementary engines of a different type.
Loose both piston engines and replace with 2 jets ..yes
Replace one of the 2 piston engines with a jet ..nope.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
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Mossie

Okay. What's the reasoning?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Wardukw

The reason is simplicity...if you have 2 forms of propulsion which is the primary one.
The whole idea to re- engine is to re engine it..not to just add to it ...ie ..replacing its original power plant with a entirely new and different one.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

zenrat

So this is out then?

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

TomZ

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killnoizer

Please give me a signal if you are ready , and the build will start ... I am in , shure   :thumbsup:  .

My absolute favourite in the collection was the ,,that can't work" theme ore similar,  would have given us some funny things ...


But re - engine is cool .    Daily business  :thumbsup:

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zenrat

Quote from: TomZ on June 06, 2023, 04:54:55 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 06, 2023, 04:32:08 AMSo this is out then?



Yes.

Would it be allowed if you replaced the remaining piston engine with a different one (an Allison V-3420 for example) so both engines had been replaced?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

TomZ

Quote from: zenrat on June 07, 2023, 05:07:53 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 06, 2023, 04:54:55 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 06, 2023, 04:32:08 AMSo this is out then?
Yes.

Would it be allowed if you replaced the remaining piston engine with a different one (an Allison V-3420 for example) so both engines had been replaced?

Yes, that would be allowed as long as the change from the cyclone to the Allison is visible recognizable.
You could go from two cyclones to one Allison and one nuclear warp engine if you like......


TomZ
Reality is an illusion caused by an alcohol deficiency