Quote from: zenrat on August 04, 2023, 04:52:37 AM

Quote from: scooter on August 03, 2023, 06:50:51 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 03, 2023, 12:15:50 AM

Quote from: kitbasher on August 02, 2023, 08:12:07 AM

Quote from: Pellson on August 02, 2023, 05:21:45 AMHaving given another blood sample (welcome to the world of cancer patients  ), me and the much prettier half of the family decided on having a brew rather than stressing on with the doors to that shed. That gave me the opportunity to surf a bit on this and that, and mainly on modelling. I am feeling a slight tickling in the mojo nerve again, so if I now just can kill that shed off...

Hope the blood test results are all fine and dandy.

As for killing off the shed....petrol is recommended.

Surely in this Carbon Neutral World it should be an axe ? 

Pull the nails, stick it in a wood chipper, and use it for either compost or mulch

Any chipper worth its salt will go through the nails without noticing they are there.
After all, it needs to be able to mulch leather, bone, and those pesky buckles and buttons...

How do you cut the rebates for the hinges Mr P?  The traditional way with hammer and chisel or do you use a power tool?
I favour doing it by hand (sic) having been taught how to many years ago by the best boss I have worked for.
It can be a very restful process.

Back to my earlier petrol suggestion 😉👹

Quote from: zenrat on August 04, 2023, 04:52:37 AMHow do you cut the rebates for the hinges Mr P?  The traditional way with hammer and chisel or do you use a power tool?
I favour doing it by hand (sic) having been taught how to many years ago by the best boss I have worked for.
It can be a very restful process.

Actually - and this might shock you - I don't. My hinges are salvage from the old shed this is intended to supersede, and they are hand made back in the 1950's by a local blacksmith, and made to sit on the outside of the wall and door.

You cannot view this attachment.

Another reclaimed part is the old lock, with a proper handmade key.

You cannot view this attachment.

I actually had good fun fitting that, not least the cutting of a proper keyhole. No cheating here, using the shield to cover up a big oval hole, or two big drilled round holes.

You cannot view this attachment.   

Annoyingly, a thunderstorm appeared just as I'd fixed the second lock to the second door. Hence no possibility to hand that door today. The first one works a treat, though, and speaking of hammer and chisel - after having drilled out the general shape of the slot for the latch, I use hand tools to finalise it.

It's pretty satisfying building things like this, and making them work. While some may say that screwing structural beams together rather than using nails, or even older wood locking technology, doing it this way is fast, easy and allows for easy correction, should you c0ck up. And you inevitably do that, once or twice. Also, it does get sturdy enough, and considering that my dads old shed lasted 51 years, this, being sat somewhat higher from the ground, and using properly impregnated wood for the bottom frame, should last my time, and maybe even my children's.
Still, it looks much like the old shed, thereby adhering very well to the other buildings on our land, and by using these old hinges and locks, it actually looks as if it's sat there since the 50's, together with the main building. And that's a good feeling.

Quote from: zenrat on August 04, 2023, 04:52:37 AM

Quote from: scooter on August 03, 2023, 06:50:51 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 03, 2023, 12:15:50 AM

Quote from: kitbasher on August 02, 2023, 08:12:07 AM

Quote from: Pellson on August 02, 2023, 05:21:45 AMHaving given another blood sample (welcome to the world of cancer patients  ), me and the much prettier half of the family decided on having a brew rather than stressing on with the doors to that shed. That gave me the opportunity to surf a bit on this and that, and mainly on modelling. I am feeling a slight tickling in the mojo nerve again, so if I now just can kill that shed off...

Hope the blood test results are all fine and dandy.

As for killing off the shed....petrol is recommended.

Surely in this Carbon Neutral World it should be an axe ? 

Pull the nails, stick it in a wood chipper, and use it for either compost or mulch

Any chipper worth its salt will go through the nails without noticing they are there.
After all, it needs to be able to mulch leather, bone, and those pesky buckles and buttons...

   

Quote from: Pellson on August 04, 2023, 09:20:40 AM

Quote from: zenrat on August 04, 2023, 04:52:37 AMHow do you cut the rebates for the hinges Mr P?  The traditional way with hammer and chisel or do you use a power tool?
I favour doing it by hand (sic) having been taught how to many years ago by the best boss I have worked for.
It can be a very restful process.

Actually - and this might shock you - I don't. My hinges are salvage from the old shed this is intended to supersede, and they are hand made back in the 1950's by a local blacksmith, and made to sit on the outside of the wall and door.

You cannot view this attachment.

Another reclaimed part is the old lock, with a proper handmade key.

You cannot view this attachment.

I actually had good fun fitting that, not least the cutting of a proper keyhole. No cheating here, using the shield to cover up a big oval hole, or two big drilled round holes.

You cannot view this attachment.   

Annoyingly, a thunderstorm appeared just as I'd fixed the second lock to the second door. Hence no possibility to hand that door today. The first one works a treat, though, and speaking of hammer and chisel - after having drilled out the general shape of the slot for the latch, I use hand tools to finalise it.

It's pretty satisfying building things like this, and making them work. While some may say that screwing structural beams together rather than using nails, or even older wood locking technology, doing it this way is fast, easy and allows for easy correction, should you c0ck up. And you inevitably do that, once or twice. Also, it does get sturdy enough, and considering that my dads old shed lasted 51 years, this, being sat somewhat higher from the ground, and using properly impregnated wood for the bottom frame, should last my time, and maybe even my children's.
Still, it looks much like the old shed, thereby adhering very well to the other buildings on our land, and by using these old hinges and locks, it actually looks as if it's sat there since the 50's, together with the main building. And that's a good feeling.

This is a classic example of re-use,  and I'm delighted to see it in practice. It provides an  impressive feeling of  continuity in a time of  instant self-gratification and short-termism. To re-use high quality ironwork is a task that needs a great deal of standing and looking at...............and cups of tea.

Those are great pictures! Are you using a camera or a cellphone to take them?

  

 

I do like the key and hinges 

Quote from: frank2056 on August 04, 2023, 12:06:12 PMThose are great pictures! Are you using a camera or a cellphone to take them?

Thanks. Appreciated.

I'm actually using an embarrassingly old IPhone XR. That said, I do have some history as a freelance photographer back in the dark ages. I'd like to think some old skills remain.

  
Some old screws to hold the hinges and lock would be a nice touch. I guess that is stuff that you either have or don't have.

(I don't think they had Torx back when the lock and key were made    )

Quote from: perttime on August 05, 2023, 10:07:50 PM 
Some old screws to hold the hinges and lock would be a nice touch. I guess that is stuff that you either have or don't have.

(I don't think they had Torx back when the lock and key were made    )

I thought that.  But then I thought that old hinges with new screws gives a sense of continuity.   

Quote from: zenrat on August 05, 2023, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: perttime on August 05, 2023, 10:07:50 PM 
Some old screws to hold the hinges and lock would be a nice touch. I guess that is stuff that you either have or don't have.

(I don't think they had Torx back when the lock and key were made    )

I thought that.  But then I thought that old hinges with new screws gives a sense of continuity.   

It would be a good day for me if I found/used 3 vaguely similar screws 

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 06, 2023, 01:14:35 AM

Quote from: zenrat on August 05, 2023, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: perttime on August 05, 2023, 10:07:50 PM 
Some old screws to hold the hinges and lock would be a nice touch. I guess that is stuff that you either have or don't have.

(I don't think they had Torx back when the lock and key were made    )

I thought that.  But then I thought that old hinges with new screws gives a sense of continuity.   

It would be a good day for me if I found/used 3 vaguely similar screws 

I seem to have some identical screws. Rarely ones in a length that I need for something.... 

I know the feeling 

I'm a huge disappointment to the northern half of my family as most of the menfolk were indentured tradesman, including a couple of shipwrights . Me ? I've always been a "pen and paper" merchant   

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 06, 2023, 01:14:35 AM

Quote from: zenrat on August 05, 2023, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: perttime on August 05, 2023, 10:07:50 PM 
Some old screws to hold the hinges and lock would be a nice touch. I guess that is stuff that you either have or don't have.

(I don't think they had Torx back when the lock and key were made    )

I thought that.  But then I thought that old hinges with new screws gives a sense of continuity.   

It would be a good day for me if I found/used 3 vaguely similar screws 

The torx screws are actually part of the door structure whereas the Phillips screws attach the keyhole shields. That said, I did have a rummage for older screws but didn't find any suitable ones, bar some made for blade screwdrivers. And I positively HATE those, so Phillips screws it is.

Besides, everything on this property was built more for use than looks from the start, and dad, while being a white collar worker for most of his life, always had a very practical approach to design and construction. If it works, it's good. If it looks nice too, it's excellent. But if it looks good but doesn't work, then someone'll have to start over again.

This looks alright and works. I like to think he'd be quite pleased.