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Panzermotorrad PzMd.1 or ‘Kugelpanzer’

Started by RAFF-35, August 04, 2023, 02:07:41 PM

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RAFF-35

This is the Panzermotorrad PzMd.1 or 'Kugelpanzer' as it is more well known. It is a one-man light tank that was first built in the German empire by Hansa-Lloyd Werk A.G. in 1917. After the failure of the company's heavy tank design, the Treffas-Wagen, it was realised that there was more money to be made in manufacturing large numbers of light tanks instead of small numbers of large ones. The concept of the Treffas-Wagen was simply scaled down and turned into the basic and easy to mass produce Kugelpanzer. The first prototype was completed in August 1917 and operational evaluations were completed by early October. During these trials, a skid was added to the front of the vehicle to stop it from tumbling down slopes. Also, more effective ventilation and an exhaust were added to prevent the driver from choking on the engine fumes.
The Germans had little idea how to best make use of the Kugelpanzer initially, so they were used sparingly until the mechanised cavalry tactics were formed during the summer of 1918.
After the armistice, almost all trace of the Panzermotorrad was wiped out due to the treaty imposed on Germany. One example survived however and was given to the Soviets as a present from the German army in the mid 1930's.
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Wardukw

Love it Raff ..great painting and very nice weathering  ...top marks mate 👌 👍 👍
I'm wondering how that would have worked out on a WW1 battle field..one shell hole and bugga another one stuck or just vanished into the mud.
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frank2056

Nice camo! Good idea to make it WW1.

Is that a modified Das Werk Kugelpanzer?

RAFF-35

Quote from: Wardukw on August 04, 2023, 03:59:47 PMLove it Raff ..great painting and very nice weathering  ...top marks mate 👌 👍 👍
I'm wondering how that would have worked out on a WW1 battle field..one shell hole and bugga another one stuck or just vanished into the mud.

Thank you very much!

I've no idea either, but the first generation of tanks all suffered similar issues with mud and massive shell holes. Perhaps the Germans would've learned to deploy them in specific conditions like the French did with the FT-17's?
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RAFF-35

Quote from: frank2056 on August 04, 2023, 06:03:21 PMNice camo! Good idea to make it WW1.

Is that a modified Das Werk Kugelpanzer?

Very kind, thank you.

It is indeed, a nice, simple kit. I know it's a one man tank but it's surprising how small it is 😄
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buzzbomb

great work on the colour scheme.. that scheme really works for this

Wardukw

Quote from: RAFF-35 on August 05, 2023, 12:15:51 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on August 04, 2023, 03:59:47 PMLove it Raff ..great painting and very nice weathering  ...top marks mate 👌 👍 👍
I'm wondering how that would have worked out on a WW1 battle field..one shell hole and bugga another one stuck or just vanished into the mud.

Thank you very much!

I've no idea either, but the first generation of tanks all suffered similar issues with mud and massive shell holes. Perhaps the Germans would've learned to deploy them in specific conditions like the French did with the FT-17's?
I've seen plenty of pics of MK 1 males and females stuck in shell holes ..they were the very first as ya know so they didn't really have an idea where to take em and not to but they learned...unditching beams and so on .
Guess the French got the message pretty fast  .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

RAFF-35

Quote from: buzzbomb on August 05, 2023, 12:42:04 AMgreat work on the colour scheme.. that scheme really works for this

Thank you! It's always puzzled me why this is supposed to be a WW2 design when everything about it looks like a hair brained proto-tank from WW1  :unsure:
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frank2056

It's no more harebrained than this perfectly reasonable post WWI design:


Old Wombat

The artist & designer had obviously not served in the trenches of WW1! :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
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Wardukw

Dudes u don't know if you have ever heard of this but some nutta in WW2 designed a jumping tank ..with one freakin leg ...stupidity abounds with this one lads .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

NARSES2

Quote from: Old Wombat on August 08, 2023, 07:40:11 PMThe artist & designer had obviously not served in the trenches of WW1! :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

What I find interesting about it is that a US magazine is showing what appears to be British troops in 1914/15 uniforms crossing relatively open ground. Do we know when that edition was published ?

As an aside I'd hate to have to propel those things with my knees even before they went AWOL  :rolleyes:
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frank2056

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 09, 2023, 05:45:30 AMWhat I find interesting about it is that a US magazine is showing what appears to be British troops in 1914/15 uniforms crossing relatively open ground. Do we know when that edition was published ?

I was wrong; it's actually from the  November 1915 issue (full issue)

Archive.org has copies of many of the old Popular Mechanics

If you just want to browse the covers, you can also look here.

Old Wombat

OK, I'll give them a bit more lee-way but, by the time that was published in 1915 (obviously written earlier), the green was mostly gone from No Man's Land, although it took 1916 to turn it into a total Hellscape.
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zenrat

They could double as coffins to ship the bodies of the dead back home.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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