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HP 38 Heyford Coastal Command

Started by Robomog, August 07, 2023, 04:54:29 PM

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Heyfords were still flying on glider towing duties during early WW2 - this one was seen at RAF Jurby in July 1940 and was finished in Dark Earth/Dark Green uppers with Yellow undersides (note the high demarkation line on the fuselage - just like Robomog's Coastal Command whif).  There's Heyford-related discussions at https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234981056-hp-heyford-in-wwii/ and https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61982-handley-page-heyford-camouflage/

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This final shot appears to show the heyford towing a Hotspur glider so this one may be K5184.

Apols for the real world stuff!     
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Robomog

Zenrat :-  love the Henfield it's beautifully bonkers  :wub:

It's given me an idea for a desert Heyford  sand/dark earth over azure blue, probably stretching whifworld rules a bit but it would be a looker !

Kitbasher :-  Nice pics !  I could have done with them when I started this project

Has anyone noticed the sag on the tow line in the last pic it seems to be dragging down the Heyford  :unsure:

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Robomog on August 16, 2023, 12:48:04 PMHas anyone noticed the sag on the tow line in the last pic it seems to be dragging down the Heyford  :unsure:


That's actually the 'High Tow' position for the Hotspur. They could either fly above the tug aircraft or below it, but not in line with it, but I can't remember why. Maybe so the tug crew could always keep the two in view?

In both positions the tow line was often in a curve, especially during a turn, and it looks as if the tug was turning to port in the pic.
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Wardukw

Quote from: Robomog on August 16, 2023, 12:48:04 PMZenrat :-  love the Henfield it's beautifully bonkers  :wub:

It's given me an idea for a desert Heyford  sand/dark earth over azure blue, probably stretching whifworld rules a bit but it would be a looker !

Mog
>^-.-^<

RULES??? WHAT STINKING RULES ???  Do it Moggy ..will ne a looker for sure 👍👍
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Quote from: Robomog on August 16, 2023, 12:48:04 PMZenrat :-  love the Henfield it's beautifully bonkers  :wub:

It's given me an idea for a desert Heyford  sand/dark earth over azure blue, probably stretching whifworld rules a bit but it would be a looker !
Mog
>^-.-^<


As part of the RAF's Air Policing Force at RAF Habbaniya?
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: scooter on August 16, 2023, 02:27:53 PMAs part of the RAF's Air Policing Force at RAF Habbaniya?


Why not? They flew equally ancient Audaxes from the football fields there during the Siege.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Captain Canada

That's definitely an Upper Heyford ! What ?  :-X

Great job on this one, and for sure, the best Heyford I've seen.

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PR19_Kit

All this Heyford stuff reminds me that I've had a monoplane Heyford 'in build' for ages now.

Naturally it needed longer wings to maintain the original wing area......  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Dizzyfugu

I also think that this became a late standard, because I found several pictures of different Heyfords with such a hood.

kitbasher

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2023, 04:01:35 PMAll this Heyford stuff reminds me that I've had a monoplane Heyford 'in build' for ages now.

I once had plans for one of those using a pre-loved built Heyford but it lay dormant on the 'to do' for so long I passed the unwhiffed model on to someone else.  Often wish I'd not.  As yet unbuilt Heyford in the stash will be real world when/if built.
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Dizzyfugu

I also have a Matchbox Heyford in The Stash™. Today I wonder why I ever bought it...?

zenrat

Quote from: kitbasher on August 17, 2023, 12:26:58 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2023, 04:01:35 PMAll this Heyford stuff reminds me that I've had a monoplane Heyford 'in build' for ages now.

I once had plans for one of those using a pre-loved built Heyford but it lay dormant on the 'to do' for so long I passed the unwhiffed model on to someone else.  Often wish I'd not.  As yet unbuilt Heyford in the stash will be real world when/if built.

I started a monoplane.  I extended the wings and then it stalled when it came to making a decision about the engine(s?).
But when I bought my Heyfords I got what turned out to be nearly five kits in three boxes so while building the Henfield, and putting parts aside for the monoplane, and pinching a few bits here and there, I have made sure I kept separate enough parts to build one stock Heyford...

...which could of course become the basis of another whiff.   ;)
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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scooter

Quote from: zenrat on August 17, 2023, 04:11:35 AMBut when I bought my Heyfords I got what turned out to be nearly five kits in three boxes so while building the Henfield, and putting parts aside for the monoplane, and pinching a few bits here and there, I have made sure I kept separate enough parts to build one stock Heyford...

...which could of course become the basis of another whiff.   ;)


Keep it stock and just enclosed the cockpit.  Mostly think it's a whiff.
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Snowtrooper

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 17, 2023, 04:01:01 AMI also have a Matchbox Heyford in The Stash™. Today I wonder why I ever bought it...?
You may have thought of
  • an airliner version
  • a floatplane derivative with the other wing now supported by struts above the main wing and floats attaching to the fuselage
  • a mostly stock aircraft but purchased by an exotic overseas customer in the throes of Douhetism
  • a radar testbed (whether AI or ASV, with all those struts a few antennae don't much increase the drag any more)
  • an aircraft used to support SOE/SIS agents and resistance movements
  • a lifeboat-dropping search and rescue aircraft
  • a "British Mistel" conceived after the fall of France to attack the imminent German beachheads, with a suitably obsolete interwar upper component
;)