F-35-ish diverter-less intakes would look good on the Draken. 

Ever thought of a modernized Drakken?

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 28, 2020, 10:56:08 AM
The F-35 has sort of Ferri intakes.............

That's a fair point. I guess if they line up with all the angles then you get the 'spike' effect.

Quote from: Jesse220 on May 02, 2020, 10:59:40 AM
Ever thought of a modernized Drakken?

Oh yeah. Saab had a project for it called the J-35X which had retractable canards in the leading edges of the inner wing, a bit like the ones in the nose of the Dassault Milan Mirage.

There's not much avionics space in a Draken, although you might usefully free some up by exchanging the 1950s stuff for smaller solid-state equivalents. Alternatively you could go for that big-forward-fuselage scheme I posted. A less thirsty engine would be good too. IAI used to offer the Volvo RM-12 (Gripen engine) for the Mirage/Kfir airframe, so it seems only reasonable that Saab could offer it for the Draken. Had there been more export customers for the Draken, that might have been a viable scheme, although the US origin of the engine (it's basically a GE F-404 with a Volvo afterburner) would have given the US a veto over any sales.

Quote from: Weaver on May 02, 2020, 12:52:57 PM

Quote from: Jesse220 on May 02, 2020, 10:59:40 AM
Ever thought of a modernized Drakken?

Oh yeah. Saab had a project for it called the J-35X which had retractable canards in the leading edges of the inner wing, a bit like the ones in the nose of the Dassault Milan Mirage.

There's not much avionics space in a Draken, although you might usefully free some up by exchanging the 1950s stuff for smaller solid-state equivalents. Alternatively you could go for that big-forward-fuselage scheme I posted. A less thirsty engine would be good too. IAI used to offer the Volvo RM-12 (Gripen engine) for the Mirage/Kfir airframe, so it seems only reasonable that Saab could offer it for the Draken. Had there been more export customers for the Draken, that might have been a viable scheme, although the US origin of the engine (it's basically a GE F-404 with a Volvo afterburner) would have given the US a veto over any sales.

Nice. Maybe they could build a stealth Vtol Fighter and call it the Drakken II.

An F-35 with a double delta wing, then. Could look very good. 

Quote from: ChernayaAkula on May 07, 2020, 08:44:59 AM
An F-35 with a double delta wing, then. Could look very good. 

Yeah!

Quote from: Weaver on April 27, 2020, 07:15:22 PM
The biggest problem with stealthifying the Draken would be the intakes: they're dead square-on to a radar ahead of the plane, and they're part of the wing structure, so any change gets complicated real quick. The 'diverterless' bumps in the picture wouldn't do much: the engine face is already shielded pretty well: it's the intake lips that are the problem.

And that's where materials changes come in, including composite intake lips and intakes with RAM baked in as part of the composite.

Nothing new here, just a glorious picture  :



Posted on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/violetpilot1/status/1305454494252060674?s=20

Add a couple of engines (ramjets?) at the wing break, similar to one of the earlier
configurations of the SAAB 36 bomber project.

Quote from: Jesse220 on May 05, 2020, 09:22:31 PM

Nice. Maybe they could build a stealth Vtol Fighter and call it the Drakken II.

https://twitter.com/BurkhardDomke/status/1307611844106878977?s=20

Love this!

Quote from: ysi_maniac on June 09, 2022, 08:16:30 PM
Love this!

As do I 

Would a Draken be able to have a 360 degree bubble canopy with a cut down fuselage & twin vertical tails & canard foreplanes?