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The Bv 148, Dr Vogt's 'conventional' version of the Bv 141 - DONE

Started by PR19_Kit, July 08, 2023, 03:11:24 PM

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loupgarou

Quote from: The Wooksta! on September 05, 2023, 10:15:34 AMTry getting a product called Glue n Glaze. Krystal Kleer in all but name.

It's the one Kit was swearing about earlier on.... ;D
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63cpe

Bravo Kit it's coming along nicely! Bravo!

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PR19_Kit

As the 148's cockpit uses the 141's glazing straight from the production line, it has ZILLIONS of windows, and not wanting to drive myself to distraction masking them up with tiny bits of chopped up Tamiya tape, I bought one of the pre-cut Eduard masking sets for the 141, the first time I've ever used one of these sets.



The yellow thing on the right is the sheet of masking tabs. No, I can't see them either, and even with a bright light it's the very devil of a job seeing where the edges of each tab are! The instruction sheet is on the left, and that's just HALF of it, there's a complete page of diagrams on the other side too!  :o

There are EIGHTY NINE masking tabs for the complete aircraft! Luckily I only need to use the ones at the front of the gondola as the 148 doesn't use the rear, conical bit.

Here's my starting position with the job.



Only another 50-60 tabs to go......................

Oh yes, I chopped off the rear of the 141 gondola's clear area so it comes to an abrupt halt just aft of the rea gunner's observation window, as you can see the second pic above. It doesn't fit round the curved top of the fuselage very well, so will need some packing and some PSR to fair it in properly.

That's probably tomorrow's job.
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Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe

Personally, I use regular PVA glue - in my opinion it's the same as Krystal Klear, just a lot cheaper - and has a multitude of uses around the home/office/workshop...

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child safe PVA glue is my go to of choice as well,
cheap and easy to clean up
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 05, 2023, 12:15:36 PMAs the 148's cockpit uses the 141's glazing straight from the production line, it has ZILLIONS of windows, and not wanting to drive myself to distraction masking them up with tiny bits of chopped up Tamiya tape, I bought one of the pre-cut Eduard masking sets for the 141, the first time I've ever used one of these sets.



The yellow thing on the right is the sheet of masking tabs. No, I can't see them either, and even with a bright light it's the very devil of a job seeing where the edges of each tab are! The instruction sheet is on the left, and that's just HALF of it, there's a complete page of diagrams on the other side too!  :o

There are EIGHTY NINE masking tabs for the complete aircraft!

An excellent reason not to build WW2 German bombers, I'd say..
Jokes aside, I'm rather impressed by your persistence.  :thumbsup:
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Pellson on September 05, 2023, 02:12:22 PMAn excellent reason not to build WW2 German bombers, I'd say..


I'm tending to that point of view myself.............

While it saves hours worth of cutting lengths of tape, I'm finding that the Eduard tabs aren't actually as accurate as they say, and some need trimming to fit the windows on the aircraft. Better than being too small I suppose, but still something that needs attention.

I've given up on doing any more this evening, my eyes are starting to bulge!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

buzzbomb

Well that is a good move by the looks of it for this build.

Only used masks once, maybe twice and now a bit ambivalent as to whether they are worth it or not over the more traditional hacked up tape method

scooter

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 05, 2023, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: Pellson on September 05, 2023, 02:12:22 PMAn excellent reason not to build WW2 German bombers, I'd say..


I'm tending to that point of view myself.............

Ditto.  Along with ANY greenhouse canopied aircraft
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Kit since I've built a crap load of German aircraft over the yrs here's a tip for masking those bloody nightmare canopies..super thin self adhesive metal foil.
It comforms to the shape easily and once you've pressed it in  into all the nooks and  crannies ya just cut around the frames..peal off the rubbish and all windows are masked 😷  :thumbsup:
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That sounds a good idea, I may try that if I ever have a brainstorm and built another Luftwaffe bomber!  :thumbsup:

Ah, I've a Huma Ju 288 kit at home somewhere that could be a suitable candidate, after a bit of Whiffery of course. I might even make the wings longer........  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

The canopy masking goes, and on, and on.............

It's pretty tiresome, but I expect it'd have been worse if I'd have had to cut the tabs from tape myself. As it is about 50% of them needed trimming to make sure they fitted as intended. Not quite as good as Eduard's reputation would have lead me to believe. So far I've got maybe 60-65% of the tabs in place.



As this is meant to be a PR aircraft, over and above what was intended for the Bv 141, it needed a camera fit, and as the fuselage has some extra room in it I drilled a number of camera ports in the belly. After it's been painted I'll fill the ports with Glue & Glaze.

On which subject, the glue holding the forward canopy in place is USELESS, and has let go more than once, so I'm giving up on it there and I'll sand off the joint lines and use Revell Contacta sparingly and fill any gaps with Glue & Glaze. In the pic above it's just sitting there, not glued on at all!

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

frank2056

This advice may be too late, but run a #2 pencil (or similar) gently at an angle across the sheet. The lead will mark the edges of the window masks.

PR19_Kit

That could be the solution, thanks Frank.  :thumbsup:

Why don't they say that in the instructions though?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe