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The Bv 148, Dr Vogt's 'conventional' version of the Bv 141 - DONE

Started by PR19_Kit, July 08, 2023, 03:11:24 PM

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At last all the airframe is together and all the PSR's done.  :thumbsup:

I've got to figure out the upper fuselage colours, and whether to add mottle or not, it seems lots of 1944 Luftwaffe aircraft did, but not all.



The tailwheel's already in place, you can JUST see it in the pic, and next it's the main gear. And THEN I can put the prop blades on.  ;D
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NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 16, 2023, 04:37:30 AMHere's another question about the colours too. As the props are rotating around the fuselage, what colour should I paint the prop hubs? As sometimes they'll be one way up and sometimes the opposite, it's no good painting them blue underneath and brown/green on top as less than a second later they'll be other way up!

I'm tending toward doing both the blades and the hubs in Schwarzgrun, one my fave Luftwaffe colours (I've NO idea what RLM no. it is, sorry)


Blades in Schwarzgrun as Lee says and if you want the prop hubs to be different then how about good old RLM 02 ?
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 17, 2023, 05:26:25 AMBlades in Schwarzgrun as Lee says and if you want the prop hubs to be different then how about good old RLM 02 ?


That was my thinking actually, but earlier on someone said that 02 wasn't used by 1944, and had been replaced by, er, something else that's a sort of dark black colour.

(I just can't think in those numbers, sorry)

How about the whole hub(s) in Schwarzgrun?

I'm toying with the idea of doing one hub like that and one quartered in black and white as Womby suggested.  ;D
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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PR19_Kit

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All the basic paint is on the 148 now, after a mammoth masking and painting session today. If I'd have been Humbrol enamels as I used to this session would have taken me DAYS, not hours. Thank goodness for Hataka and Tamiya acrylics.  :thumbsup:

Here's the upper and lower views as they are at present. I've some blending and mottling to do on the sides, where the brown/violet or green meets the Sky side stripe , and where the Sky meets the pale blue underside.

(Yes, I KNOW it's not really Sky, but it's almost the same and I used Hataka Sky for it.....)





There's a fair amount of tidying up to do, plus some detail painting too. I've painted the landing gear as well, but I have to do the tyres yet, and I HATE that. Luckily Eduard provide wheel masks in their kit of tabs and I'll give them a go and see how they work.

Might even get some decals on next week.  ;D

Oh yes, I decided to go with all Schwarzgrun for the prop hubs, they are part of the props after all, and they're done now.
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Magnificent job. Congrats for getting so close to completion.
Can't wait to see it finished..

David aka 63CPE

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 17, 2023, 05:50:12 AMThat was my thinking actually, but earlier on someone said that 02 wasn't used by 1944, and had been replaced by, er, something else that's a sort of dark black colour.

(I just can't think in those numbers, sorry)


They weren't using it for cockpit interiors, RLM 66 instead I think, but there must of been buckets of it in the stores, and by 1945 if it was in the stores it got used looking at some of the schemes I've seen.  ;) A bit like the RAF in 1940, Sky may well of been specified for the undersides, but anything vaguely sky bluish got used.  ;D

I've been wondering if this so called RLM 99 which is so similar to Sky was in fact Sky that the Germans' captured during their advance through France in 1940 ?  :angel:

Looking good Kit  :thumbsup:



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I used some 02 on the wheel hubs, I hope the Gestapo won't haul me off because of that..........  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rheged

Herewith, a list of Reichs   Luftfaht  Ministerium (German Air Ministry) approved  colours, so that everyone knows what we are discussing  .  In 1943,  Albert  Speer Speer introduced to the industry the same measures of self-regulation that he had introduced in other areas of industry  and as a result the RLM's colour designations were less rigorously enforced.  By 1945,it is reported by some authors that the aero industry was in such a state of tumult that any reasonable colour that  was available was used.**

**This is your "Get out of jail free"   card when  assailed by JMNs.

RLM - 01, SILBER ( silver )
RLM - 02, GRAU ( grey )
RLM - 04, GELB ( yellow )
RLM - 21, WEIß ( white)
RLM - 22, SCHWARZ ( black )
RLM - 23, ROT ( red )
RLM - 24, DUNKELBLAU ( dark blue )
RLM - 25, HELLGRÜN ( light green )
RLM - 26, BRAUN ( brown )
RLM - 27, GELB ( yellow )
RLM - 28, WEINROT ( maroon )
RLM - 61, DUNKELBRAUN ( dark brown )
RLM - 62, GRÜN ( green)
RLM - 63v.1, GRÜNGRAU ( green-grey)
RLM - 63v.2, LICHTGRAU ( light grey)
RLM - 65, HELLBLAU ( light blue )
RLM - 66, SCHWARZGRAU ( black-grey )
RLM - 70, SCHWARZGRÜN ( black-green )
RLM - 71, DUNKELGRÜN ( dark green )
RLM - 72, GRÜN ( green )
RLM - 73, GRÜN ( green )
RLM - 74v.1, GRÜNGRAU ( grey-green )
RLM - 74v.2, GRÜNGRAU ( grey-green )
RLM - 75, GRAUVIOLETT ( grey-violet )
RLM - 76, LICHTBLAU ( light blue)
RLM - 77, HELLGRAU ( light grey)
RLM - 78, HELLBLAU ( light blue )
RLM - 79, SANDGELB ( sand-yellow )
RLM - 79, SANDBRAUN ( sand-brown)
RLM - 80, OLIVGRÜN ( olive-green )
RLM - 81v.1, BRAUNVIOLETT ( brown-violet )
RLM - 81v.2, BRAUNVIOLETT ( brown-violet )
RLM - 81v.3, BRAUNVIOLETT ( brown-violet )
RLM -82, LICHTGRÜN ( light green )
RLM -83, DUNKELBLAU ( dark-blue )
RLM -84v.1, GRAUBLAU ( green-blue )
RLM -84v.2, GRAUBLAU ( green-grey )
RLM -84v.3, GRAUBLAU ( green-blue )




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Quote from: Rheged on September 18, 2023, 09:29:59 AMRLM -84v.1, GRAUBLAU ( green-blue )
RLM -84v.2, GRAUBLAU ( green-grey )
RLM -84v.3, GRAUBLAU ( green-blue )

This is confusing, because my near non-existant understanding of German is telling me they ALL translate to Grey-Blue! :unsure:
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: The Wooksta! on September 19, 2023, 04:22:45 AMWheel hubs were usually gloss black.


That's easy to fix, but it's a pity such info doesn't seem to appear very widely.

Luckily it's a Whiff of course.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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PR19_Kit

The overall paint scheme's done now, not quite as I wanted it as the blurred splodges on the fuselage sides didn't work really, but the various colours have suitably uneven edges to them anyway.

The landing gear is painted and ready to assemble, but I'm going to put he first layer, the Luftwaffe ones, of decals on now. The Air Min ones go on afterwards.  ;D

Eventually I'll put the prop blades on, I promise.  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Here, for a limited time only, is the Bv 148 in its Luftwaffe colour scheme.  ;D

It's about to be captured by the Allied forces after the D-Day invasion and will be rapidly 'impressed' into the RAF, or at least the Air Ministry anyway.  ;)

Watch this space..........



Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit