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NARSES2

Quote from: Old Wombat on September 03, 2023, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 03, 2023, 03:20:22 AMSomehow I have an image in my mind of that nuclear warhead system bouncing off the back of the "fuselage". My brain says "missiles and bombs etc are hung onto or placed into the undersides of the delivery system and drop out/off" Old fashioned I suppose  :angel:

The kit does look nice though  :thumbsup:

Especially as you're British & the British put over-wing missile launchers on the Jaguar.



True, and it never ever did look right. Always seemed to be an afterthought, which it probably was. I've never seen footage of them being fired, not that it bothers me, but I suppose I'll have to go and find some now ?  :rolleyes:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Pellson

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 04, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 03, 2023, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 03, 2023, 03:20:22 AMSomehow I have an image in my mind of that nuclear warhead system bouncing off the back of the "fuselage". My brain says "missiles and bombs etc are hung onto or placed into the undersides of the delivery system and drop out/off" Old fashioned I suppose  :angel:

The kit does look nice though  :thumbsup:

Especially as you're British & the British put over-wing missile launchers on the Jaguar.



True, and it never ever did look right. Always seemed to be an afterthought, which it probably was. I've never seen footage of them being fired, not that it bothers me, but I suppose I'll have to go and find some now ?  :rolleyes:
You're aware that the Arab EE Lightnings did have a possibility to fit bombs over the wings, to be jettisoned by powder charge. And yes, it did work.  ;)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

PR19_Kit

I LOVED the overwing launchers! They're full size Whiffs, JUST the sort of thing we'd do, so I bet the guy at Warton who had the idea was one of us.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

rickshaw

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Quote from: NARSES2 on September 04, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 03, 2023, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 03, 2023, 03:20:22 AMSomehow I have an image in my mind of that nuclear warhead system bouncing off the back of the "fuselage". My brain says "missiles and bombs etc are hung onto or placed into the undersides of the delivery system and drop out/off" Old fashioned I suppose  :angel:

The kit does look nice though  :thumbsup:

Especially as you're British & the British put over-wing missile launchers on the Jaguar.



True, and it never ever did look right. Always seemed to be an afterthought, which it probably was. I've never seen footage of them being fired, not that it bothers me, but I suppose I'll have to go and find some now ?  :rolleyes:

The upper mounts have inherent advantages - the wings did not blank out the sky to the searching missile seekers in turns.  The upper mounts also balance the missiles better. :thumbsup:
How to reduce carbon emissions - Tip #1 - Walk to the Bar for drinks.

NARSES2

Quote from: Pellson on September 04, 2023, 05:45:50 AMYou're aware that the Arab EE Lightnings did have a possibility to fit bombs over the wings, to be jettisoned by powder charge. And yes, it did work.  ;)

I'd forgotten about the bombs, I remembered the fuel tanks, but not the bombs, and no it didn't look right  ;D

Can you tell 95% of what I build has a propeller or two ?  :angel:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Mossie

The only other aircraft that had topside launchers was the F11F-1F Super Tiger.  It had launchers on the spine, but they were only flown as an aerodynamic mock up and never test fired to my knowledge. 
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

zenrat

Apart from looking stupid, having munitions mounted above the wings must make it harder when it comes to loading them.

I'm now thinking about building one of my Skyraiders with extra above wing hardpoints...
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Old Wombat

Sidewinders are good for add-on over-wing mounts because, as rickshaw said, turning towards the enemy doesn't block the seeker heat, also they run along the rail when fired (rather than dropping off before/as the engine ignites), & they don't need special radars or large avionics systems incorporated into the fuselage, as most of the targetting & tracking is done by the weapon's IR seeker head.
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

jcf

Then there was the combo overwing fuel tank/rocket pod for the Lightning.

Go one further and mount a cannon along the centreline.
:wacko:
Fuel in the aft part, gun down the middle with rockets the around the gun tube.
;D
Not much fuel, a couple of seconds of ammo and a handful of rockets, why not?
;)
Or make it even sillier, the gun in one fuel tank and the magazine in the other.

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PR19_Kit

When my employers were contracted to upgrade the Tornado GR1 fatigue test rig to the GR4 spec, I went to Warton to install it. I asked the test engineer what the planned wing loads were so I could setup the computer database prior to commissioning the rig, and when he told me I asked 'No over-wing pylons then?'  ;D

The look on his face would have melted unobtanium!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Mossie

1/48 Bendix Model J

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I can see this lending itself to a shipborne helicopter dues it's compact size.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Gondor

Don't Bendex make food mixers?

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Rheged

Quote from: Gondor on October 22, 2023, 11:52:58 AMDon't Bendex make food mixers?

Gondor

They do indeed!  Just turn this machine upside down and insert the rotors in a (very large) bowl..............
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

Gondor

Quote from: Rheged on October 22, 2023, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Gondor on October 22, 2023, 11:52:58 AMDon't Bendex make food mixers?

Gondor

They do indeed!  Just turn this machine upside down and insert the rotors in a (very large) bowl..............

No wonder they call helicopters egg beaters then  :rolleyes:

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

jcf

Quote from: Gondor on October 22, 2023, 11:52:58 AMDon't Bendex make food mixers?

Gondor
Nope, they only licensed their name to manufacturers of home appliances, originally washing machines,
but the Bendix Corporation itself never manufactured such things. They did, however, manufacture car
radios, domestic radios, phonographs and televisions. The company has primarily been a manufacturer
and supplier of automotive and aircraft system components since its start.

The current Tricity Bendix is an Electrolux brand.