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zenrat

Quote from: kerick on October 17, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 17, 2023, 02:49:14 AMI have a Hasegawa Viggen.  I was thinking of De-Viggenising it

Phantom wings and phins?
This is sounding like a version of Trashcanistan.

No.  Phantom wings are earmarked for an F-15 (someone here did a drawing - it made an impression).  Viggen would keep standard flying surfaces but swapped over so the wings are in the "proper" position.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kerick

Quote from: zenrat on October 18, 2023, 02:58:01 AM
Quote from: kerick on October 17, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 17, 2023, 02:49:14 AMI have a Hasegawa Viggen.  I was thinking of De-Viggenising it



Phantom wings and phins?
This is sounding like a version of Trashcanistan.

No.  Phantom wings are earmarked for an F-15 (someone here did a drawing - it made an impression).  Viggen would keep standard flying surfaces but swapped over so the wings are in the "proper" position.

I'll have to keep that idea in my head for later!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

NARSES2

Quote from: Old Wombat on October 18, 2023, 01:35:43 AMAnd, yes, it needs canards! ;D

Or maybe the wings just need forward extensions where they meet the fuselage ?
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kerick

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 18, 2023, 06:02:23 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on October 18, 2023, 01:35:43 AMAnd, yes, it needs canards! ;D

Or maybe the wings just need forward extensions where they meet the fuselage ?

Some LEXs would certainly make it look different! I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to fill in and connect the Viggen hump (which I added way back when) with the area behind the cockpit. That will get rid of some of the banana look. I have to think up a good way of moving the wings and canards forward. The F-104 parts will get shortened.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Zero-Sen

Old one made after an idea of JPVeira...


Wardukw

Quote from: Zero-Sen on October 18, 2023, 12:48:02 PMOld one made after an idea of JPVeira...



Ahhh a F-16nized Viggen  :thumbsup:
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Over kill is often very understated .
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zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Wardukw

Quote from: zenrat on October 19, 2023, 02:18:50 AMFalconised?


That's sounds like some form of coating for corrugated iron
Falconised steel  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe


Old Wombat

Quote from: Wardukw on October 19, 2023, 10:13:52 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 19, 2023, 02:18:50 AMFalconised?


That's sounds like some form of coating for corrugated iron
Falconised steel  ;D
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 19, 2023, 09:37:58 PMOr Falconised Rubber. :unsure:

Definitely some sort of heat treating, possibly through the application of very high velocity gases. ;D  ;)
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Wardukw

Quote from: Old Wombat on October 20, 2023, 02:59:26 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on October 19, 2023, 10:13:52 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 19, 2023, 02:18:50 AMFalconised?


That's sounds like some form of coating for corrugated iron
Falconised steel  ;D
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 19, 2023, 09:37:58 PMOr Falconised Rubber. :unsure:

Definitely some sort of heat treating, possibly through the application of very high velocity gases. ;D  ;)
Gases released thru a couple of 3in steel tubes  ;)
And quite loudly  :wacko:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Scotaidh

Quote from: kerick on October 17, 2023, 10:45:40 PMThe Viggen parts are in the stripper bath. Yeah, go ahead and giggle.  :rolleyes:  He's a couple of pics of it taped together.







The wings look a little too far to the rear but changing that would be lots more work. Overall looks pretty good. I'm trying to use only the two seater parts from the Heller kit so I can build the single seater some day. I'm looking at replacing the Viggen tail fin with a new one in the shape of a taller F-104G tail. Hmmm, more work.

The F-104's tail, complete with stabilizer, would certainly add more 'wing' area, although I'd still want canards.  Thinking of canard aircraft, though, leads me to the IAI Kfir.  Besides all the wing areas, it also had, on either side of the nose cone, a flat trapezoidal surface, quite small, that was said to give a noticeable lift to the nose.

I red-circled them in this picture: 
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Zero-Sen

Who wants a mini Viggen ?

kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

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