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Finally a reason to actually finish this one

Missing photo evidence as requested by Mods:

Thank you sir   

Nice. I also have a Mirage IV in The Stash™ with a similar conversion plan, some day... 

Oooooh, the Mirage IV, a real knee trembler of an aeroplane. 

Every schoolboy's idea of a supersonic bomber. 

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 22, 2023, 07:39:04 AMEvery schoolboy's idea of a supersonic bomber. 

Very true Kit, and we don't see that many models of them around, which is a shame.

I've got an RW one, with a scratchbuilt ASMP missile underneath, which I finished a month before Heller bought out the Mirage 2000N kit which included the same missile!   

And I've got an un-built one too, and I think that needs seriously Whiffing....................

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2023, 08:56:46 AMI've got an RW one, with a scratchbuilt ASMP missile underneath, which I finished a month before Heller bought out the Mirage 2000N kit which included the same missile!   

And I've got an un-built one too, and I think that needs seriously Whiffing....................

Why not try doing the Spay engined version for the RAF?

Gondor

It's not THAT different looking Alastair, and I'd much prefer a more 'engineering' approach to it.

I might make the wings longer of course...................... 

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2023, 10:23:28 AMIt's not THAT different looking Alastair, and I'd much prefer a more 'engineering' approach to it.

I might make the wings longer of course...................... 

Crop the outer sections and replace them with "swing wings" ? 

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2023, 10:23:28 AMIt's not THAT different looking Alastair, and I'd much prefer a more 'engineering' approach to it.

So that simply fools the punters into thinking its OOB.

Gondor

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 24, 2023, 06:28:59 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2023, 10:23:28 AMIt's not THAT different looking Alastair, and I'd much prefer a more 'engineering' approach to it.

I might make the wings longer of course...................... 

Crop the outer sections and replace them with "swing wings" ? 

Go down the Su-17 route maybe?

Quote from: Leading Observer on November 24, 2023, 08:21:19 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 24, 2023, 06:28:59 AM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2023, 10:23:28 AMIt's not THAT different looking Alastair, and I'd much prefer a more 'engineering' approach to it.

I might make the wings longer of course...................... 

Crop the outer sections and replace them with "swing wings" ? 

Go down the Su-17 route maybe?

The B-1 sort of looks Su-17 ish too. The swing pivots point is quite away out from the fuselage.

Give it hinged wing tips like XB-70?

Quote from: kerick on November 24, 2023, 11:19:44 AMThe B-1 sort of looks Su-17 ish too. The swing pivots point is quite away out from the fuselage.

All the swing wingers that actually work reasonably well seem to have their pivots some distance away from the fuselage as such, F-111, B-1, Su-23 etc etc. The one with internal pivots didn't seem to make it past the prototype stage, even if they looked sleeker, like various Mirage VG projects.

There must be some aerodynamic or stuctural reason for it I'm  sure, but I've no idea what it might be.