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Martin B-51 Master

Started by PR19_Kit, December 20, 2023, 03:31:16 AM

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PR19_Kit

Another place holder for an up coming build, this time for the Mikro-Mir Martin XB-51, and a super kit this is!

Again my backstory is RAFG had a need for such a low level, and QUICK, attack bomber to supplement its fleet of Canberra B(I)8s, and having seen the XB-51 in action during the contest for the B-57 contract, realised that the B-51 did have a few advantages over the Canberra.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

The XB-51 kit looks superb, and the aircraft is MASSIVE, specially for a 2 seater, only one of which is visible. Just for once it probably won't have longer wings, that'd probably wreck its low level turning ability. There's a whole slew of PE bits in there too.

One super thing about it is the box lid says 'Produced in Free Ukraine during the Russian invasion'.  :thumbsup:

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

#1
I was tempted by that, but then remembered I have the Anigrand one, which is in a surprisingly small box .
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PR19_Kit

It's the fuselage that makes it huge, it's MILES long, and stretches across the Mikro-Mir box diagonally!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Not one of the prettiest of planes but a very interesting subject non the less..watching this I shall be 😁
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NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 20, 2023, 10:01:03 AMIt's the fuselage that makes it huge, it's MILES long, and stretches across the Mikro-Mir box diagonally!

Ah, Anigrand split their fuselage in two
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CammNut

I've reached the painting stage with mine and I found this build on Britmodeller useful in avoiding the pitfalls:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235125364-new-mikro-mir-172-scale-martin-xb-51-bomber/

Being the type of kit it is there are no locating features and the plastic is a bit resistant to liquid cement so care and planning is essential. It's dry fit, dry fit, dry fit, then glue.

The cockpit is a real coal hole, and the canopy is tiny, so I just sloshed some black around in there...

And, yes, it's loooooong!


Captain Canada

Will this be a first on the site ? I remember the first time I saw pics of the thing.....crazy cool aeroplane !
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

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PR19_Kit

I'm thinking of making the canopy larger on my RAF version, and it will be powered with three Avons as well, obviously.  ;D

And the planned 8 x 20 mm cannon will probably be replaced with a six-gun 30 mm ADEN gun pack somewhere as well.

As for previous XB-51s, I'm pretty sure someone has done an Anigrand one on here already, maybe OGL?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

Always loved that aircraft, just because of the rather unconventional layout.  :wub:
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CammNut

Oddly, the hardest part of my B-51 build has been coming up with a name for the aircraft in RAF service. Master is brilliant. Very Martin and very British. My name is nowhere as clever

kerick

Quote from: CammNut on December 21, 2023, 05:03:53 PMThis is the B-51 build to end all B-51 builds

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5615.50

That's a classic! Too bad Photobucket is being very rude.
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philp

Logan did a bunch of profiles of the B-51 (which he called the Panther).  The oldest one I found was here, https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=20962.msg427933#msg427933.

I also saw Luftwaffe, Argentine, Israeli, British and US (using a B-57 canopy) including an EB-51 based on a EB-57 from my Dad's old squadron.

I believe the first British one is on page 80 of his thread.  I saw one in the full white scheme, a camo topped version and a couple others but interspaced over several pages.

The Britmodeller thread is very thorough and shows how much work needs to be put into getting a decent finished kit.  While I would love to do a SEA camo version with the 57 canopy the amount of work needed and the cost of the kit has kept me from picking one up.

I am looking forward to see what you do with it Kit.
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zenrat

Let's get right down to it and ask the question that is on everyone's mind.
By how much are you going to lengthen the wings Kit?
;)
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on December 22, 2023, 01:36:58 AMLet's get right down to it and ask the question that is on everyone's mind.
By how much are you going to lengthen the wings Kit?
;)


I'm actually thinking of leaving them as they are..............

Shock, horror etc. of course.  :banghead:  :banghead:

It's designed as a low level attack bomber/strike aircraft, and would need high wing loading to give the crew a soft enough ride down there. It won't lack for lift at low speeds as the wing is variable incidence as well, so it might not need longer wings.

Yeah, I know, who am I writing thhis and what have I done with Kit, eh?  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit