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This Cutlass ain't Gutless

Started by The Rat, January 18, 2024, 09:02:22 PM

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The Rat

Thought I'd already posted in this part of the boards, guess I was wrong. Here's the box



The plan is to give it better engines, in this case the Rolls Royce Avon. Let's see the difference between that and the Westinghouse J-46

THRUST
J-46:  4,600 lbf (20 kN) thrust each dry, 6,000 lbf (27 kN) with afterburner
Avon: 12,690 lbf (56.4 kN) dry, 16,360 lbf (72.8 kN) with reheat
Staggering!

WEIGHT
J-46: 2116 lb (952.5 kg)
Avon: 2,890 lb (1,310 kg)
Strange, thought I read somewhere that the Avon was lighter. No matter...

DIMENSIONS
J-46: Length: 198 in (5.0 m), Diameter: 28 in (0.86 m)
Avon: Length: 126 in (3,200 mm), 35.7 in (910 mm)
Avon fit would be snug, but doable in my universe.

The increased airflow needed for the Avons requires enlarging the intakes. This was done by just cutting them back a bit. Raised markings have been sanded off, silver paint applied to spot flaws and rough spots.




Scratching splitter plates would be nice, but cones will be easier. Thank the modelling gods for all those spare drop tanks.  ;D

This thing is as old as me, but in better shape.


"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

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PR19_Kit

A magic idea, the Cutlass should slice through the air like butter with a couple of Avons.

(Did you see what I did then?  ;D )
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 19, 2024, 02:31:51 AMA magic idea, the Cutlass should slice through the air like butter with a couple of Avons.

(Did you see what I did then?  ;D )

;D  ;D  ;D
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

sandiego89

They sure loved rivets and moulded on rondels in the 1950's! 

salute for taking on these vintage kits. The Cutlass does deserve better! 
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

chrisonord

#4
Looking forward to seeing this done, I don't usuallly comment until the build is complete, but this has my attention for a possible future F.A.A. build.  :thumbsup:
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Pee on it and walk away!!

Scotaidh

I did one with J79s in it - I had to increase fuselage width by 1/3 to accommodate them, as well as enlarge the control surfacees to handle the increased weight.  It was fun to build - I hope you have as much enjoyment of yours.  :)
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The Rat

Quote from: Scotaidh on January 21, 2024, 02:26:41 AMI did one with J79s in it - I had to increase fuselage width by 1/3 to accommodate them, as well as enlarge the control surfacees to handle the increased weight.  It was fun to build - I hope you have as much enjoyment of yours.  :)

 :thumbsup:
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

The Rat

Cones are in place, obviously the intakes need some clean-up.

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

DogfighterZen

"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

The Rat

Had an old ballpoint pen tube that was just the right size for some bigger exhaust, 0.30", but not polystyrene, very difficult to work with, so I'll soon be off to my local to pick up some proper tubing. Once they're in place I can get around to attaching the vertical stabilisers, they'll just get in the way if they're on right now.
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

Spino

Better engines would certainly have gone a long way towards making the Cutlass a good fighter.  Possibly even better than the F-8 in some respects.  Imagine that thrust to weight ratio  ;D

The Rat

Dry thrust of the 200 series RR Avon is about twice that of the Westinghouse J-46, so it should be capable of much more than the original.
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

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Spino

Always thought the Cutlass might could do with a single J-79 or F404, but that would make for a pretty long tail extension or some serious intake extensions...

PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit