Right here are the draft rules for the 1960's GB. They are the same as those finalised for the 50's GB with the exception of relevant dates etc, therefore I'm not expecting any major discussion, although having typed that I fully realise that I have not only tempted fate, but almost certainly paid for it to make an appearance 

Many thanks to Crudebuteffective elder and younger for offering to moderate it 

1.  The 1960's GB begins 00:01 Friday 1st March 2024 and ends 23:59 Friday 31st May 2024 (all times local).  An extension may/may not be considered/granted according to demand,

2.  Physical models of any scale, profiles, and/or stories are eligible, but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used during the 1960's. Subjects in use post 1969 are not eligible.  Entries can be as simple or as complex as you wish. If in doubt as to what is included in the GB then please PM the Moderators.

3.  You may build, draw or write as many entries as you like (good luck!).  The posting of in-progress pictures is encouraged as always. If you are unsure as to how to post pictures of your build on site then please contact Narses2 by Personal Message and he will go through it with you.

When posting your finished models in the Finished Builds Thread can you try and stick as closely as possible to the following format.

Title : By (entrants user name) : a brief description backstory/explanation (100 characters or so) : and a maximum of three pictures with a link to the build/progress thread. This will also apply to profiles/images.

Where members have written a story for their GB entry, they should post it in the Finished Builds Thread as normal.

Can members also refrain from posting any comments regarding entries within the Finished Builds Thread but use the link to the main build/progress thread page for these. This makes the Moderators task when it comes to organising the poll much simpler.

4.  Preparation work is allowed prior to the start of the GB but is limited to removal and cleaning up of parts from sprues, casting blocks or cutting out vacform parts from their backing sheet, even designing and printing your own decals.  The design and printing of 3D parts is also allowed, but no assembly. Anything involving modification of parts, test fitting, pre-painting and actual assembly is not allowed prior to the start of the GB, but see Rule 5 below.

5.  Part-started models may be used purely at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished, and this will be the Moderators decision. You must send pictures of the model you intend to use in the GB, along with a rough idea of what your plans for it are via a PM and their decision will be final. However, they must have been started prior to the current GB Season's themes being announced. We will be relying on the integrity of the membership to uphold this rule. If using a part started kit then this should be clearly stated at the beginning of your build thread.

Scrapped models that have been reduced to component parts or sections can be used, although you should check with the Moderators if you are not sure about the eligibility of those you intend to use. You can also use a completed sub-assembly taken from a kit which may have been previously assembled and which the whiffer wants to build into their GB entry. If in doubt, then as usual contact the Moderators with as much information as possible.

6.  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6? It's one rule or another so from now on it's 6.

7.  Moderators are Crudebuteffective  and Crudebuteffective the Younger. Thank you, gentlemen.

8.  The completed entries thread will be locked at the end of the GB and only those items posted prior to it being locked will be eligible for the vote. shortly afterwards the poll will be set up.  The number of votes per forum member will be based upon a ratio of one vote per three entries, rounded up or down to the nearest whole number.

In the event of a tie there will be no run-off. We will simply have a joint first place and then a third place (no second) this is to preserve the three into the Whiffies as detailed in Rule 9. Similarly, a three way tie will mean there is no second and third. (Please don't ask me about a four way tie !)

9.  The first three placed entries in the Group Build will automatically be nominated for a Whiffy in the specific Group Build Class.

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 22, 2024, 07:17:05 AM,,,
2.  .... Subjects in use post 1969 are not eligible.  ...

Somebody might interpret this to mean that it is not eligible if its use continued after 31 Dec 1969.

Quote from: perttime on January 22, 2024, 09:20:58 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 22, 2024, 07:17:05 AM,,,
2.  .... Subjects in use post 1969 are not eligible.  ...

Somebody might interpret this to mean that it is not eligible if its use continued after 31 Dec 1969.

My interpretation will be that it must have existed (and if appropriate in use) by 31 Dec 69, and would be finished in a 1960s colour scheme.

My only question would be what about a later model of something built and used during the 60s? C-130J for example. It's a considerable redesign of the good old Herc. I'm not sure when the F-4E came out but that could be another example.

My interpretation will be that it must have existed (and if appropriate in use) by 31 Dec 69, and would be finished in a 1960s colour scheme.
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YES THAT IS OUR INTERPRETATION

CBE ( elder and younger)

Quote from: kerick on January 22, 2024, 11:07:58 AMMy only question would be what about a later model of something built and used during the 60s? C-130J for example. It's a considerable redesign of the good old Herc. I'm not sure when the F-4E came out but that could be another example.

F-4E first flight was 1965.

Quote from: crudebuteffective on January 22, 2024, 12:07:38 PMMy interpretation will be that it must have existed (and if appropriate in use) by 31 Dec 69, and would be finished in a 1960s colour scheme.

YES THAT IS OUR INTERPRETATION

CBE ( elder and younger)

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So what you are saying is that while use of the vehicle may have begun in the fifties or earlier and/or continued into the seventies and beyond, to be valid for entry into this GB it must be finished in a specification and scheme it bore between 31/12/1959 and 01/01/1970?

Quote from: zenrat on January 23, 2024, 03:53:39 AMSo what you are saying is that while use of the vehicle may have begun in the fifties or earlier and/or continued into the seventies and beyond, to be valid for entry into this GB it must be finished in a specification and scheme it bore between 31/12/1959 and 01/01/1970?

affirmative / yes

Quote from: crudebuteffective on January 23, 2024, 01:04:19 PM

Quote from: zenrat on January 23, 2024, 03:53:39 AMSo what you are saying is that while use of the vehicle may have begun in the fifties or earlier and/or continued into the seventies and beyond, to be valid for entry into this GB it must be finished in a specification and scheme it bore between 31/12/1959 and 01/01/1970?

affirmative / yes

Akin to my still unfinished 50s GB Spitfire Tr.18.

So the C-130J is out. Not that I have one to build, just using it for an example.

From Der Flieger October 1959. 
While conceived in the late '50s the Super Hercules in the drawings would've been built in the '60s. 

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Hmmm, the C-130C..................... ?

That's very interesting, and could be easy to build too. 

Strangely for a bloke who really doesn't build 72nd I have a 72nd Herc   
It's no good for this GB tho as my mate Perrin bloody near finished it ...still don't have engines or decals or landing gear..it's primed ..no good for this GB.

Quote from: kerick on January 23, 2024, 04:39:39 PMSo the C-130J is out. Not that I have one to build, just using it for an example.

yep c130j is out