Also don't believe the hype, exaggerations, myths and outright BS surrounding "hypersonic" missiles. 

Quote from: Old Wombat on January 11, 2024, 01:16:57 AM

Quote from: kitbasher on January 10, 2024, 04:55:08 AMNo they're not.  You can't jam bullets.

It's just the nature of the systems that could change.  Ideal for downing low, slow drones.

A range of answers are needed to counter a range of threats, so there's equally a place for missiles too.

I think you mis-understood what I wrote; I wasn't saying guns were "headed for obsolescence", I was saying 30mm guns were headed for obsolescence.

I was responding to seadude, old chap.

Quote from: kitbasher on January 24, 2024, 02:37:32 PM

Quote from: Old Wombat on January 11, 2024, 01:16:57 AM

Quote from: kitbasher on January 10, 2024, 04:55:08 AMNo they're not.  You can't jam bullets.

It's just the nature of the systems that could change.  Ideal for downing low, slow drones.

A range of answers are needed to counter a range of threats, so there's equally a place for missiles too.

I think you mis-understood what I wrote; I wasn't saying guns were "headed for obsolescence", I was saying 30mm guns were headed for obsolescence.

I was responding to seadude, old chap.

Jolly good!

What of the 'Metalstorm' device developed a couple of years ago? Was it a dead-end?
Short range in the initial version, but could the size & calibre be ramped up somehow?
Even if it's more of a high-tech Chaff dispenser, would it have some use?

As for lasers vs. eyes, mirror sunglasses are cheap...
Something like the Humvee-based microwave emitter they were trialing as crowd-control, now...with the available electrical wattage a ship's turbine generates...

Metalstorm was a solution perpetually looking for a problem.  What was not made clear is what happens to the mounting because of recoil.   All the ground mounts were fixed to the earth and of a small enough calibre to absorb the recoil.  As as soon as you try the same trick on a ship and make it a useful calibre it tears lose from the ship's deck.  Metalstorm was an interesting idea but never practical which is why no one adopted it, despite it's supposed promise.   

Now that makes a lot of sense, yes. Handling the recoil can be the deal-breaker for a lot of promising ideas.

Sad, though - I was looking forward to the media Bleeping out the Troops' nickname for it... being Aussie, there was a near 100% likelihood it would've been called 'Sh!tStorm'...