Quote from: zenrat on January 25, 2024, 01:01:08 AMPity those armour builders who don't whiff.  They get left with all those spare parts and all they can use them on is another build of the same vehicle.

Which probably comes with those parts, too, anyway.  

Quote from: zenrat on January 25, 2024, 01:01:08 AMPity those armour builders who don't whiff.  They get left with all those spare parts and all they can use them on is another build of the same vehicle.

Or sell them to us on ebay...    

I've got several boxes of never-used tank parts, including all the non-gun bits of a Tamiya Flak 88, which includes an entire BMW motorbike.

On the subject of extra bits:

Special Hobby's Hueycobra is basically a weapons set with a helicopter thrown in. It's even got super-rare stuff like the early open-tube-cluster rocket pods and the Vulcan on one wing cross-fed from an ammo tank on the other.

MPM's Trent Meteor includes an entire standard Meteor wing and engine set.

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 02:39:08 AMSpecial Hobby's Hueycobra is basically a weapons set with a helicopter thrown in.

..as is their French Mirage F1. Or maybe all of them - I only have the F1CR-issue
Loads of French weaponty, anyhow.
Also the HobbyBoss Sepecat Jaguar A, which is a good thing, because the cockpit is much too wide.. 

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 02:39:08 AMMPM's Trent Meteor includes an entire standard Meteor wing and engine set.

Does it ? I can't remember that from when I built it, need to go and check the spares box 

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 25, 2024, 08:01:17 AM

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 02:39:08 AMMPM's Trent Meteor includes an entire standard Meteor wing and engine set.

Does it ? I can't remember that from when I built it, need to go and check the spares box 

Yep, just checked it. You get three sprues in the box: an F.1 fuselage sprue, a Trent wing & engines sprue, and a full F.8 wing sprue. You need the latter because it has all of the non-Trent undercarriage and undercarriage bay parts on it.

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 02:39:08 AMSpecial Hobby's Hueycobra is basically a weapons set with a helicopter thrown in. It's even got super-rare stuff like the early open-tube-cluster rocket pods and the Vulcan on one wing cross-fed from an ammo tank on the other.

It's a lovely kit, streets ahead of the Matchbox rendition. (I can't comment on the Monogram issue, having never seen it.)

The 20mm ammo is in the bulges either side of the fuselage, over the skids; these have a chute to transfer ammo from one side to the other as it's used.
The pod on t'other wing is a 7.62mm minigun pod. 

Quote from: buzzbomb on January 23, 2024, 01:54:19 PM...Manufacturers/Designers, If you can combine components into a single piece, please do, assembling an Armoured Car suspension with all the parts of the real thing is really, really not required.

Au contraire.  As a model car builder I want my suspensions broken down prototypically as it makes it much easier to lower or raise a car if its that way.

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 10:13:25 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 25, 2024, 08:01:17 AM

Quote from: Weaver on January 25, 2024, 02:39:08 AMMPM's Trent Meteor includes an entire standard Meteor wing and engine set.

Does it ? I can't remember that from when I built it, need to go and check the spares box 

Yep, just checked it. You get three sprues in the box: an F.1 fuselage sprue, a Trent wing & engines sprue, and a full F.8 wing sprue. You need the latter because it has all of the non-Trent undercarriage and undercarriage bay parts on it.

Ah cheers H    I shall try and find what I did with the parts later 

As long as they keep offering a choice of drop tanks, which can be used for a million and one thingies, we'll be okay.     

Quote from: zenrat on January 26, 2024, 02:28:24 AM

Quote from: buzzbomb on January 23, 2024, 01:54:19 PM...Manufacturers/Designers, If you can combine components into a single piece, please do, assembling an Armoured Car suspension with all the parts of the real thing is really, really not required.

Au contraire.  As a model car builder I want my suspensions broken down prototypically as it makes it much easier to lower or raise a car if its that way.

If it's done correctly, it also allows the vehicle to be set realistically on an uneven surface, like broken/rocky ground.

Quote from: Old Wombat on January 26, 2024, 07:37:41 AM

Quote from: zenrat on January 26, 2024, 02:28:24 AM

Quote from: buzzbomb on January 23, 2024, 01:54:19 PM...Manufacturers/Designers, If you can combine components into a single piece, please do, assembling an Armoured Car suspension with all the parts of the real thing is really, really not required.

Au contraire.  As a model car builder I want my suspensions broken down prototypically as it makes it much easier to lower or raise a car if its that way.

If it's done correctly, it also allows the vehicle to be set realistically on an uneven surface, like broken/rocky ground.

Which is exactly what happens. As an example of the multi part suspension builds, (Gecko Daimler Armoured Car for instance) getting all the parts to fit, when designed to fit a certain way by the designer can become very tiresome once it creeps out of alignment as designed for the kit. A brake line part will be too short, the swing arm too long, the steering rods just out of alignment to meet up. Then the need to match a base up to all these so the vehicle does not float on 3 wheels. One for the Youtube masters.. I am getting a bit past all this.

Surely there is room for some of these teensy parts to be combined, like Tamiya would.

All this before you fix to the hull and start adding all the brakes and linkages.
And the rear suspension is similar but somewhat different.

First world modelling problem. We waited many, many years for a Daimler Armoured car and now have a wonderful kit. Which looks almost identical to the much older and simpler Accurate Armour example it sits next to 

Slightly OT, but I can see why there is a competition class for unpainted scratchbuilds/conversions... so the un-knowing/thinking/caring don't just pass over it as 'just another something-from-the-box'.

The 1/72 scale Stalwarts have umpteen parts for their suspension too, and trying to get all six wheels on the ground at once is quite a problem.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 27, 2024, 05:13:35 AMThe 1/72 scale Stalwarts have umpteen parts for their suspension too, and trying to get all six wheels on the ground at once is quite a problem.

Wasn't that pretty normal for Stalwarts, anyway?

Hehehe, yeah, could be right.