Quote from: The Wooksta! on February 19, 2024, 02:31:13 AMI've sat inside both cockpits of XR220 and they're darker than LAG.

I was talking about undercarriage legs and bays.  Cockpits were Dark Admiralty Grey

Well, it's my model and I will paint it how I like!

The cockpit will be Colourcoats M16 and the undercarriage and bomb bays will be Colourcoats M23.

Gondor

I made a slight change to the colours I am going to use. The bomb bay is going to stay white. This is mostly because the painting I have done to it looks reasonable at the moment so it would be a shame to change it.

The undercarriage legs and bays have been painted in Colourcoats M23, the cockpit will get redone in Colourcoats M16 tomorrow.



The photo is a little out of focus because the phone decided that the cat scratching mat that I bought today is far better to focus on. You get to see the colour, if not the detail in the picture. The parts will need a second coat later though so maybe just as well you can't see any detail.

I am thinking of adding brake lines to the undercarriage legs. This is not something that I have done before so advice would be appreciated before I get too far with them.

Gondor

Second coat of Colourcoats M23 this evening, tomorrow I will re-paint the cockpit and a few others that I need to do while I have the tin open.

Gondor

If you are using armature wire for the brake lines, color them with a black permanent marker before installing them. It doesn't add thickness and lumpiness to the wire that way.

Quote from: kerick on February 20, 2024, 06:21:41 PMIf you are using armature wire for the brake lines, color them with a black permanent marker before installing them. It doesn't add thickness and lumpiness to the wire that way.

I don't have any armature wire as I don't know what gauge it is or the material it is made from, although I am guessing that it would be copper.

Anyway, I have repainted the cockpit! I am much happier with the colour now which is good.

Here is what it looked like yesterday



Ignore the number on the back, that was the first colour I was going to paint it.

Halfway house



New paint on the left which is still wet at this stage

And now



Not doing any more tonight. I will be starting to do detailed painting of the cockpit tomorrow.

Gondor

Looks much better! I'll be waiting to see more. 
Armature wire is the fine copper wire used in motors and transformers. It has that super thin varnish like insulation that comes in different colors.

Quote from: kerick on February 21, 2024, 07:15:37 PMLooks much better! I'll be waiting to see more. 
Armature wire is the fine copper wire used in motors and transformers. It has that super thin varnish like insulation that comes in different colors.

Ah, that reddish varnish. Nope, I don't have any but I do have thin wire. I also have no idea how it should be routed other than it has to run over the scissor links.

Gondor

AKA wrapping wire.  I use 0.5mm wrapping wire as spark plug wires for 1/25 model cars.

Quote from: Gondor on February 17, 2024, 03:30:03 AMThought I had better take a couple of pictures to back up my thoughts about fitting the Bluewater.

On reflection, they might fit. It would be a tight fit though. The picture with the missile shows the underside of the wing and the slot for the engine pylon. The larger of the missiles fins are also in the picture to show how much bigger it could be although the fins would be at 45^o from the vertical and so not their full width.

The other picture shows the depth of the pylons, grey for the engine pylon and cream for the missile pylon, so this shows the amount of vertical room for the missile.

So yes, it could fit, but it would be tight.

Gondor

I agree - too much chance of the ordnance snagging the engine pod on the way out... not helpful. Or the engine ingesting the missile's exhaust... also not helpful.
Something semi-recessed into the bomb bay is a better idea. 

Quote from: Rick Lowe on February 23, 2024, 05:24:39 AM

Quote from: Gondor on February 17, 2024, 03:30:03 AMThought I had better take a couple of pictures to back up my thoughts about fitting the Bluewater.

On reflection, they might fit. It would be a tight fit though. The picture with the missile shows the underside of the wing and the slot for the engine pylon. The larger of the missiles fins are also in the picture to show how much bigger it could be although the fins would be at 45^o from the vertical and so not their full width.

The other picture shows the depth of the pylons, grey for the engine pylon and cream for the missile pylon, so this shows the amount of vertical room for the missile.

So yes, it could fit, but it would be tight.

Gondor

I agree - too much chance of the ordnance snagging the engine pod on the way out... not helpful. Or the engine ingesting the missile's exhaust... also not helpful.
Something semi-recessed into the bomb bay is a better idea. 

I don't think that will work either.

It's all to do with the fact that the aircraft uses a bicycle-type undercarriage where one set of wheels are in front of the other.



As you can see above, the cut-outs near the left and right sides of the picture are the undercarriage bays, the big gap in the middle is the bomb bay and below that in cream is a Blue Water missile.

So it looks like it won't fit that way either. All this is down to the design. Looks pretty but it's not a particularly practical design for doing anything other than lugging a couple of buckets of instant sunshine around and not much else that won't fit inside the bomb bay.

Gondor

See post #30? 

Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 23, 2024, 07:15:26 AMSee post #30? 

Not My Problem 

Gondor

centre line on the spine ?   

Had a good look at the canopy fit and found out that the problem is with the cockpit, it has a middle-aged spread. I currently have the sides clamped into the correct width and will treat with a hair dryer tomorrow.

Gondor