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This Cutlass ain't Gutless

Started by The Rat, January 18, 2024, 09:02:22 PM

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: Scotaidh on March 08, 2024, 01:35:49 PMI found, that when I showed pics of my Whiffy Cutlass to "non-aircraft people," so to speak, they had no idea what my changes were.  Anyone else have this problem?

I then came up with the idea of making and OOB to put next to the Whiff - but that effectively doubles the price of my builds. 

Yup to that. Frustrating, but then when you find that one (or two) person(s) who knows what they're looking at, it's a definite boost.

And yeah, a thought, but an expensive way to do it - and double the work, for not much gain.

Spino

Quote from: Scotaidh on March 08, 2024, 01:35:49 PMWhen I built my J79 Cutlass I did a ton of research - reading pilots' stories, and so on.  Turns out that not only were the engines - the only ones available at time of build - not powerful enough, but Vought built it with a 3000psi hydraulic system - which operating pressure was more than double what previous &Y in-service Naval aircraft used.  So when an original piping part failed, it was usually replaced with ... something already in stock!  (Tell me you didn't see that coming!)  A half-inch fitting is a half-inch fitting, right?  So now you had sub-spec parts just waiting to fail and spray hi-press. oil all over the insides of the aircraft, including those oh-so-hot internal afterburner nozzles ,,, Can you say Fire!  I knew you could ...

Well that certainly explains a lot.  For a company that built the F4U Corsair, I would have thought Vought engineers would have known better than to pull a shenanigan like that, but I suppose not.  I looked up your J79 Cutlass build on here, and I have to say, that is a fantastic piece of work.  Makes me want to do one myself, once I finish my F-14E, F-15X, and F9E  :lol:  :banghead:

PR19_Kit

That sounds pretty crazy. I spent a lot of my working life using 3000 psi hydraulic systems and the LAST thing you'd do was fit and under-rated part or seal in a system at that pressure!

There's a LARGE circular stain on the wall of the Control Centre at the Railway Technical Centre in Derby which was the result of someone (not me....) doing just that, thinking that 'Oh, this one will do'. It didn't, and the wall mounted phone that used to be there was reduced to dust by the 2" diameter jet of hydraulic fluid that impacted the wall....................
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 10, 2024, 12:58:12 AMThat sounds pretty crazy. I spent a lot of my working life using 3000 psi hydraulic systems and the LAST thing you'd do was fit and under-rated part or seal in a system at that pressure!

There's a LARGE circular stain on the wall of the Control Centre at the Railway Technical Centre in Derby which was the result of someone (not me....) doing just that, thinking that 'Oh, this one will do'. It didn't, and the wall mounted phone that used to be there was reduced to dust by the 2" diameter jet of hydraulic fluid that impacted the wall....................

Lucky no Human was in its path, just a phone. :o
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Spino

Yeah I read stain and got worried there for a second  :o

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Old Wombat on March 10, 2024, 07:53:08 AMLucky no Human was in its path, just a phone. :o


That was pure fluke, the queue for the tea trolley was just forming when the fitting let go, and the jet of oil went behind the last guy in the queue!

Apparently I shot down the spiral stairs from  the Control Centre without actually touching the stairs with my feet, leapt over a large pile of ballast weights and punched seven bells out of the E-Stop button to turn the pumps off. I can't remember doing it, but we needed a new E-Stop button and I had to go to hospital with a sprained wrist.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 10, 2024, 09:36:37 AMThat was pure fluke, the queue for the tea trolley was just forming when the fitting let go, and the jet of oil went behind the last guy in the queue!

Apparently I shot down the spiral stairs from  the Control Centre without actually touching the stairs with my feet, leapt over a large pile of ballast weights and punched seven bells out of the E-Stop button to turn the pumps off. I can't remember doing it, but we needed a new E-Stop button and I had to go to hospital with a sprained wrist.  ;D

That was good - Someone was watching out!

And yeah, adrenalin can let you do some surprising things... all the bodies' safeties come off and well, Amazing Happens.

The Rat

Still in progress. Since I made a right dog's breakfast of the paint job, I'll be distracting from it by busying the surface up with all the decals, of which there are many, and small. Yes, that little black speck you see is a decal.

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Wardukw

After reading more of this and seeing the single engined version I'm now wondering if there is a 48th model of the Cutless out which doesn't cost more than a new tyre for my car 😀 😉
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Spino

Quote from: Wardukw on January 21, 2025, 10:16:25 AMAfter reading more of this and seeing the single engined version I'm now wondering if there is a 48th model of the Cutless out which doesn't cost more than a new tyre for my car 😀 😉

Me too, but I doubt it.  I know there's an old Lindberg kit out there if you can still get it, but I believe it's either a prototype or an F7U-1, not sure which.  Anyway Lindberg kits tend to be covered in rivets and very scant in the detail department, and of course parts fit is often questionable at best.

Wardukw

Quote from: Spino on January 28, 2025, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 21, 2025, 10:16:25 AMAfter reading more of this and seeing the single engined version I'm now wondering if there is a 48th model of the Cutless out which doesn't cost more than a new tyre for my car 😀 😉

Me too, but I doubt it.  I know there's an old Lindberg kit out there if you can still get it, but I believe it's either a prototype or an F7U-1, not sure which.  Anyway Lindberg kits tend to be covered in rivets and very scant in the detail department, and of course parts fit is often questionable at best.
Thank ya Spino mate ...that's at least one to look out for ..even if ..well there's no if..it's crap so one to go slightly bonkers on  :wacko:
The hunt begins  :thumbsup:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Wardukw

Well I found a 48th Lindberg Cutless for sale ..and here and one from the US ..the US price $17.99 and in stock ..the one here and this proves beyond shadow of a doubt that this country lives in its own dream land..$174  :o  :o  :o
FFS!!!
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Quote from: Wardukw on January 28, 2025, 09:27:22 PMWell I found a 48th Lindberg Cutless for sale ..and here and one from the US ..the US price $17.99 and in stock ..the one here and this proves beyond shadow of a doubt that this country lives in its own dream land..$174  :o  :o  :o
FFS!!!

Is someone smoking crack? Stupid to ask that price and stupid if someone does!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

Quote from: kerick on January 28, 2025, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 28, 2025, 09:27:22 PMWell I found a 48th Lindberg Cutless for sale ..and here and one from the US ..the US price $17.99 and in stock ..the one here and this proves beyond shadow of a doubt that this country lives in its own dream land..$174  :o  :o  :o
FFS!!!

Is someone smoking crack? Stupid to ask that price and stupid if someone does!
Mate I don't think crack was anywhere near what these guys were smoking..it's something far more powerful 😳.
I know what it is ..if anything is even close to rare here they seem to think they can charge the earth and then some for it  :banghead:
It's pathetic bud.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Quote from: Wardukw on January 28, 2025, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: kerick on January 28, 2025, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on January 28, 2025, 09:27:22 PMWell I found a 48th Lindberg Cutless for sale ..and here and one from the US ..the US price $17.99 and in stock ..the one here and this proves beyond shadow of a doubt that this country lives in its own dream land..$174  :o  :o  :o
FFS!!!

Is someone smoking crack? Stupid to ask that price and stupid if someone does!
Mate I don't think crack was anywhere near what these guys were smoking..it's something far more powerful 😳.
I know what it is ..if anything is even close to rare here they seem to think they can charge the earth and then some for it  :banghead:
It's pathetic bud.

Tell him it's only a piece of plastic and watch him lose it!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise