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"The Dam Busters" - Movie aircraft. Finished pics & back story (at last!) pg 18.

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Quote from: NARSES2 on March 14, 2024, 02:38:13 AM
Quote from: loupgarou on March 13, 2024, 09:37:27 AM
Quote from: jcf on March 12, 2024, 09:08:43 AMIf it was an American International Pictures Samuel Z. Arkoff production directed by Roger Corman they
would probably have stuck with spherical bombs.
Each B-17E special carrying two, mounted abreast behind partial hemispherical fairings.

The film would have to be titled Operation Radish.

:wacko:

I see nobody else dared evoke an ancient glory of this forum.... ;D  :wacko:

And he's still going strong  ;D  :thumbsup:

........and we are all delighted to hear it!
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

zenrat

And now, after what seems like endless tedium after mind numbing boredom of thread drift (  ;)  ), an update...


...but no pictures.


I have completed the cockpit and what I shall build of the Bombay (sic) at this stage and have glued all the little windows inside the fuselage.  I can almost join the fuse halves except I have to paint the tail wheel leg (unless it can be modified so it can be fitted later) and modify the belly turret so that the glazing can be fitted later.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

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zenrat

I had a vague thought of accompanying the B17 with another aircraft from the same movie  - A faux FW-190 consisting of a T-6 in a WW2 Luftwaffe scheme.
Until I realised it wouldn't be a whiff as that is what they did in Where Eagles Dare (and I suspect in a number of other movies).
Fred

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sandiego89

Quote from: zenrat on March 23, 2024, 04:42:30 AMI had a vague thought of accompanying the B17 with another aircraft from the same movie  - A faux FW-190 consisting of a T-6 in a WW2 Luftwaffe scheme.
Until I realised it wouldn't be a whiff as that is what they did in Where Eagles Dare (and I suspect in a number of other movies).

T-6's have been about everything in movies! 
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Old Wombat

What about a (Sea) Fury cosplaying as the Fw.190? :unsure:

There were still a fair few of them knocking about when the (RW) Dam Busters movie was filmed. ;)
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

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veritas ad mortus veritas est

Leading Observer

Quote from: zenrat on March 23, 2024, 04:42:30 AMI had a vague thought of accompanying the B17 with another aircraft from the same movie  - A faux FW-190 consisting of a T-6 in a WW2 Luftwaffe scheme.
Until I realised it wouldn't be a whiff as that is what they did in Where Eagles Dare (and I suspect in a number of other movies).

What about using a Chipmunk as a Bf109?
LO


Observation is the most enduring of lifes pleasures

zenrat

D'oh!  I was focussing on radial engined low wing monoplanes to play an FW 190.  I didn't think about something to be an Me 109. 
Not sure if I have a Chipmunk but I do have a Hasegawa Mentor.  Which would actually be closer to the real thing than he usual Me 108.
 :thumbsup:
Thanks for the inspiration LO.


Joined the fuselage halves of the B17 today.  Now I can get to work mounting the Upkeep.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

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Weaver

Quote from: zenrat on March 23, 2024, 04:42:30 AMI had a vague thought of accompanying the B17 with another aircraft from the same movie  - A faux FW-190 consisting of a T-6 in a WW2 Luftwaffe scheme.
Until I realised it wouldn't be a whiff as that is what they did in Where Eagles Dare (and I suspect in a number of other movies).

Not everything in a whiff scenario has to be a whiff. The RAC Landrover in my Trackrover dio is 100% real world: the whiff is that it's three miles from the South Pole...

In fact, a bit of real-world well-known fakery can flummox people about the actual whiff. I have a plan to exploit this in the future... :-X  :wacko:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

jcf

Being as it's an American film, presumably shot in California, you could do what was done in a couple
of other films and paint up a Mustang as a 109, or as some F8F Bearcats were still flying around at the
time do one up as a 190.

zenrat

Quote from: jcf on March 25, 2024, 01:57:59 PMBeing as it's an American film, presumably shot in California, you could do what was done in a couple
of other films and paint up a Mustang as a 109, or as some F8F Bearcats were still flying around at the
time do one up as a 190.

Good idea.  Put in the possible pile.  Would there have been many highback Mustangs still flying then?

Hoover Dam would have stood in for German dams plus filming being done over the Salton Sea.

Your post look odd without sigs BTW.

Fred

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zenrat

Did I mention I had bought a set of canopy masks for an Academy B17F thinking they would also fit this Academy B17D/E kit?
Well they do...


...partially.

Ball turret, small fuselage windows, dorsal windows (the large panel behind the turret), and cockpit canopy are the same.
Fuselage gunners windows are different but the masks work well enough.
Tail gunners windows are simple enough to cut from tape.
Dorsal turret and Nose glazing are completely different, complex, and will get frames of painted tape.

PSR on the fuselage commences tomorrow.
Fred

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NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

jcf

The Tallmantz Collection, Frank Tallman and Paul Mantz - probably best known for aerial film making with their
B-25 camera ships, had Mantz's post-war P-51C racer. You cannot view this attachment.

jcf

The Academy B-17E, is just a B-17E, the B-17D
has the earlier small tail fuselage without the
power turrets and there's also a lot of differences
between the E, F and the G in terms of the forward upper turret, windows, waist gunner positions and tail guns. 

B-17D
You cannot view this attachment.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: jcf on March 29, 2024, 01:11:24 PMThe Tallmantz Collection, Frank Tallman and Paul Mantz - probably best known for aerial film making with their
B-25 camera ships, had Mantz's post-war P-51C racer. You cannot view this attachment.


As modelled by Monogram in their dual pylon racers kit. I've still got mine somewhere, a lovely kit.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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Kit