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Help needed to identify this Saab Draken kit

Started by DogfighterZen, April 12, 2024, 07:29:46 PM

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DogfighterZen

So, like the title of the topic says, i need help to identify a kit. In the box of built models i got from a gentleman who was going to throw them in the bin, i've managed to identify all but one. This Saab Draken has engraved panel lines but the surface is also covered with rivets...  :unsure:
So far, i can exclude the Heller and Airfix kits, both have raised panel lines and no rivets are visible. The Heller kit i had also had several sink marks on the wings and fuselage, nothing close to this kit, which actually looks pretty good.

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Going by the scheme, i believe it's one included in one of the Revell boxings of the their kit, which dates back to 1957 so, because of the surface detail, i don't believe this is that kit. The image can be emlarged and that will give a good size to see the kit's surface to see if you can recognize it.
Reviews and pics of every Draken kit have provided little to no help but i would like to, at least find out what kit it is and see if i can find the instructions to help me figure out what parts are missing and need to be built from scratch.. This isn't a very important matter but would be nice just to see if there's more to the kit than what i have right now. Any help with this issue will be appreciated.
I've been having thoughts about a twin seat anti-shipping fighter with a different canopy to replace the missing canopy. Cockpit will also have to be something new, either form the spares box or scratched up.
Landing gear will be eliminated, main gear doors scratched up and this one will get a stand for an in-flight display.

 :cheers:
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DogfighterZen

Quote from: kerick on April 12, 2024, 08:03:35 PMNot sure from the pic but is that 1/48th?

 :banghead:
Sorry... forgot to say it's 1/72... The scheme is the same on this box:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-kikoler-h-189-saab-j-35-dragon--1165504
But that's the old tool kit from 1957 so, if this is it, this kit was predicting the future of the industry with the engraved panel lines and rivets but, i don't think that's the one...  :unsure:
Anyway, on Scalemates i find 4 new tool kits, from Revell-1957, Airfix-1971, Hasegawa-1994, Aeroplast-1999...
These are the oldest molds that can fit the the former owner's modelling period, maybe a bit earlier but at least from the late 1960s to the early 90s, when he gave up modelling completely but, i'm also not sure about how accurate is the info on Scalemates...
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This is the early Revell J35A. A not very accurate model, bit one of very few with the early short afterburner.

I built one myself as a kid. My first Mach 2 jet fighter, and boy, did she fight many a pesky soviet MiG in my parents garden..  :wub:
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DogfighterZen

Quote from: Pellson on April 13, 2024, 01:48:49 AMThis is the early Revell J35A. A not very accurate model, bit one of very few with the early short afterburner.

I built one myself as a kid. My first Mach 2 jet fighter, and boy, did she fight many a pesky soviet MiG in my parents garden..  :wub:

This really is the 1957 Revell kit?  :o
Wow... i bet the box is the one i linked above from 1979 so it's at least as old as i am...
Sounds like you had a lot of fun with one of them...  :mellow:
Again, i think the kit isn't that bad from what i see, not accurate but it was away ahead of it's time when they made the molds. If they'd kept the rivets to a minimum, this would be almost as good as the 94 Hasegawa kit, at least in terms of surface detail. The panel lines aren't bad, in fact, much better than Matchbox engraved trenches.
I've been looking for parts to use on this one and i think i've found just the thing, a PJ productions twin seat Mirage III canopy and windshield left from my PoAF Mirage V.

Thank you!  :cheers:
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The Wooksta!

I'd say it's likely the Aeroplast kit.  No one was doing engraved panel lines and rivets in the 50s, Airfix didn't I the 70s and Hasegawa doesn't do rivets.
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DogfighterZen

Quote from: The Wooksta! on April 13, 2024, 04:08:29 AMI'd say it's likely the Aeroplast kit.  No one was doing engraved panel lines and rivets in the 50s, Airfix didn't I the 70s and Hasegawa doesn't do rivets.

I've watched a review of the Aeroplast kit on youtube and i don't think it's that kit, Lee. The man who gave me the kit said he stopped building in the early 90s and the Aeroplast kit was first released in 1999 so, way past the time when he stopped modelling so i don't think it's that kit. There's also the fact that he painted it exactly like the one on Revell's box so i'm guessing he just painted it like it was supposed to when following the kit's instructions.
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steelpillow

This is definitely the Revell kit. I still have one in this scheme, that I made in the 1970s.
As a kit, it is a bit small - closer to say 1:76 - except for the tail fin which is oversize.

I have been contemplating getting out the old razor saw and whiffing it into one of those Draken-with-buried-lift-engine concepts that were floated in the early 60s.
Cheers.