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Another Road Not Travelled - Royal Navy FAA Decides to stay with Sea Hurricanes

Started by Stan in YUL, March 27, 2024, 11:48:28 AM

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jcf

The Merlin 66 would probably be the perfect choice for a pumped-up Sea Hurricane. The supercharger
was biased towards higher power at medium and low altitudes, which would suit carrier operations.
The two-speed/two-stage 60 and 70 Series are roughly 18 inches longer than the two-speed engine of
the Hurricane II series, slightly wider but three inches less in height. The 66 is 195 lbs heavier than a XX.
The nose would likely require a bit of a stretch and a mild reprofile.

The Hurricane's outer wing panels bolted on just outboard of the wheel wells, folding the wings there would
make it too tall, the wingspan is only one foot less than a Corsair, which would mean a second hinge point
would be required. This would most logically be just outboard of the gunbays, but it would probably be more
sensible to just have the wings fold at that point. It means that the folded aircraft wouldn't be as narrow as
other types, but it would be the fastest mod to make and probably the most structurally sound.

jcf

Of course something to bear in mind is that the thick wing is going to be a limit on any useful increase in speed, no matter how much power is added.

A Griffon with contra-props would be wasted unless it was perhaps setup for increased power at low level for a dedicated attack version of the Hurricane, where the increased power is to balance a large increase in loaded weight. The Hurricane as a Skyraider analog.

NARSES2

Quote from: Stan in YUL on March 28, 2024, 08:30:10 AMI suppose a cut down rear fuselage and bubble canopy would be in the cards.

There was a proposal to give the Hurricane a "Malcolm Hood" and it makes the side view look surprisingly different.

Again courtesy of Francis Mason  :thumbsup:
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perttime

Quote from: jcf on March 28, 2024, 12:10:37 PMOf course something to bear in mind is that the thick wing is going to be a limit on any useful increase
in speed, no matter how much power is added.

A Griffon with contra-props would be wasted unless it was perhaps setup for increased power at low
level for a dedicated attack version of the Hurricane, where the increased power is to balance a large
increase in loaded weight. The Hurricane as a Skyraider analog.

Oh dear ...  ;D  It will need a Tempest or (Sea) Fury wing. Perhaps tail too.

The Rat

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 28, 2024, 01:46:19 AMThere was also a proposal for a Hercules powered version during 1941. This was proposed incase of a shortage of Merlins.

Pretty sure that someone on here did a radial-engine Hurricane a few years ago, and I can certainly see that as a naval variant, for the same reasons that the US Navy preferred them.
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NARSES2

Pretty sure your right Ratty, may have been Martin H ? I've done a lot of Hurri's but I don't think it was me  :angel:

Regarding the Navy preferring them, that was my thinking as well  :thumbsup:
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Charlie_c67

Bit late to the party, but what about an all metal skinned Hurricane?
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

Wardukw

Yeah a bit late here to Charlie but I'm glad 😊
Alot of very cool ideas and I've got a couple of Hasegawa Hurricanes in the stash and now I've got plans for one of em 😀  :wacko:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

The Rat

Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 14, 2024, 07:06:55 PMBit late to the party, but what about an all metal skinned Hurricane?

What a co-inkydink. I was thinking exactly that the other day
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PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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kitbasher

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zenrat

I've got a cut down bubbletop Griffon or Sabre Hurricane on my to do list.  And i've been thinking due to all the PSR that it'll end up metal skinned.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Charlie_c67

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 15, 2024, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: Charlie_c67 on April 14, 2024, 07:06:55 PMBit late to the party, but what about an all metal skinned Hurricane?


Wouldn't that be a Typhoon?

One would hope the tail had more staying power in a Hurricane...

Quote from: zenrat on April 15, 2024, 04:29:30 AMI've got a cut down bubbletop Griffon or Sabre Hurricane on my to do list.  And i've been thinking due to all the PSR that it'll end up metal skinned.


Not a Centaurus?  :wacko:
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Old Wombat

I have two Sea Hurricanes, one each for the RAN & RAM's in my Alt History.

Both will be 20mm-cannon-armed but I'm leaning towards the RAM version being armed with two cannon & two .50cal Brownings.
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Wardukw

I'm having mutant thoughts here ...going thru the pile I found a Mk24 with bits missing..brought it like that  and this got my thinking.
Using its wings ..Hurricane landing gear cause it's wide track or another idea I'm thinking about..turning the Spits landing gear around 🤔
Also fitted the Spits canopy and Griffon with 5 bladed prop .
Just have get the vision in my head first to see what it would look like.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .