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F/A-18E/F "Murder Hornet"

Started by seadude, June 10, 2024, 12:51:31 PM

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seadude

Exactly as the thread title says. But I'm not talking about the giant Asian "murder hornet" insects that have been recently seen in North America last year.
I'm actually talking about building an F/A-18 Hornet fighter and painting it in black and yellow colors similar to a bumblebee/hornet, loading it up to capacity with ordinance, and dubbing that a "Murder Hornet".  ;D  Of course, most of the ordinance would probably be air to air missiles. But I also have PLENTY of Hasegawa 1/72 scale bomb sets too.
Anyway, I did get the following 1/72 scale F-18F kit at a recent club auction. I was really hoping for a 1/48 scale kit instead, but there wasn't any, so I had to settle for 1/72 scale.
As far as paint scheme goes, I was inspired after looking at the aircraft in this thread:
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=52915.0
But here's my question:
To get a really good decent brightness and coverage of yellow, I've sometimes heard that it might be preferable to paint a white primer underneath first. Any thoughts to this? What is the best way to get decent yellow coverage?
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kerick

This can be a real challenge. I've heard from folks here to try a pink primer. I've never tried it so that needs to be confirmed.
A friend of mine who was a really good car painter painted an aircraft white and swore he would never do it again!
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PR19_Kit

I've used pale pink as a primer under yellow, and it definitely works better than using the normal grey.
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jcf

The Japanese variety is more orange than yellow. 
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kerick

What color is the plastic? Probably grey. Hopefully as light as possible.
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seadude

Quote from: jcf on June 10, 2024, 06:14:22 PMThe Japanese variety is more orange than yellow.
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Well, I don't know if I'm going to paint it EXACTLY like a murder hornet. My favorite paint brand that I like using for all my model projects is the Vallejo Model Air Acrylics for airbrushing.
But since I don't have an airbrush, they can be brush painted by hand too. Though sometimes it takes two coats depending on the color used.
Anyway, they have four different yellows:
71.002 Medium Yellow
71.033 Yellow Ochre (RAL 1006)
71.078 Yellow (RLM04)
71.135 IJA Chrome Yellow
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

seadude

Quote from: kerick on June 10, 2024, 06:59:15 PMWhat color is the plastic? Probably grey. Hopefully as light as possible.

Standard gray plastic. Probably halfway between light and medium. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow if I can.
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

The Rat

Ditto on the pink primer, I've heard it's the best.
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NARSES2

Quote from: The Rat on June 10, 2024, 08:04:14 PMDitto on the pink primer, I've heard it's the best.

Yup, I use it for yellow, but it has to be a relatively pale pink. I think the depth of colour you use for the pink will probably vary depending on the brand of yellow you are using ? Nothings ever simple  :angel:  so experiment a bit first on some scrap.
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kerick

Quote from: jcf on June 10, 2024, 06:14:22 PMThe Japanese variety is more orange than yellow.
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Are you sure that thing isn't from Australia???

Sounds like white with a couple drops of red will do the job. The second color pic looks good to me, considering how well my screen is reproducing the actual color. Just my $0.02.
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jcf

Quote from: kerick on June 11, 2024, 07:30:00 AM
Quote from: jcf on June 10, 2024, 06:14:22 PMThe Japanese variety is more orange than yellow.
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Are you sure that thing isn't from Australia???

Sounds like white with a couple drops of red will do the job. The second color pic looks good to me, considering how well my screen is reproducing the actual color. Just my $0.02.
;D 
They've found and destroyed nests in northwest Washington State and across
the border in southwest British Columbia.

Weaver

Another vote for pink primer here: I used Humbrol Flesh and it worked great.
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The Rat

Quote from: jcf on June 11, 2024, 10:45:11 AM;D
They've found and destroyed nests in northwest Washington State and across
the border in southwest British Columbia.


What did they use, a JDAM?  ;D
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NARSES2

Quote from: Weaver on June 11, 2024, 11:46:23 AMAnother vote for pink primer here: I used Humbrol Flesh and it worked great.

That's probably the shade I ended up with, why didn't I just buy some ? Live & learn  :rolleyes:  Thanks H  :thumbsup:

As for those Asian Hornets, apparently we are seeing them in the UK now and they are causing huge problems for our native bee population which is having knock on effects on farmers and gardeners.  :-\
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jcf

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Quote from: NARSES2 on June 11, 2024, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 11, 2024, 11:46:23 AMAnother vote for pink primer here: I used Humbrol Flesh and it worked great.

That's probably the shade I ended up with, why didn't I just buy some ? Live & learn  :rolleyes:  Thanks H  :thumbsup:

As for those Asian Hornets, apparently we are seeing them in the UK now and they are causing huge problems for our native bee population which is having knock on effects on farmers and gardeners.  :-\
Yep, they invade a hive and go into slaughter mode decaptitating all the adult bees, but keeping the larvae
alive as food. They then take over the hive as their nest. Native bees and domesticated honey bees have no
defenses, unlike the bees in the areas where the hornets are native. Those bees swarm and suffocate scouting
hornets. They completely cover the hornet while rapidly beating their wings, which raises their body temperature
along with that of the hornet and they keep it up until the invader is dead. Lots of bees die, but the hornet scouts
can't go back to their nests and return in force.