Those Canadian Drakens look disturbingly good! I'd just give them Falcons instead of Red Tops (why? ).

I'm saving that bi plane A-10 monstrosity "for later". For some reason it had a tail hook.

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He'd like that.

 

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 31, 2024, 03:01:43 AMThose Canadian Drakens look disturbingly good! I'd just give them Falcons instead of Red Tops (why? ).

Falcon, Genies or Sparrow because Red Top would be very unlikely. 

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Quote from: Old Wombat on November 28, 2023, 12:51:45 AMIt appears Tophe is now THE Ghost in the Machine!    

He'd like that.

 

  

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Quote from: Old Wombat on November 28, 2023, 12:51:45 AMIt appears Tophe is now THE Ghost in the Machine!    

He'd like that.

 

  

   

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Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 31, 2024, 03:01:43 AMThose Canadian Drakens look disturbingly good! I'd just give them Falcons instead of Red Tops (why? ).

Falcon, Genies or Sparrow because Red Top would be very unlikely. 

Falcons would be 1st choice, since they were the Swedish prime armament, too. I have doubts with Sparrows, though, due to the radar, but Genies sound interesting! 

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Quote from: jcf on February 01, 2024, 12:34:20 PM

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 31, 2024, 03:01:43 AMThose Canadian Drakens look disturbingly good! I'd just give them Falcons instead of Red Tops (why? ).

Falcon, Genies or Sparrow because Red Top would be very unlikely. 

Falcons would be 1st choice, since they were the Swedish prime armament, too. I have doubts with Sparrows, though, due to the radar, but Genies sound interesting! 

Didn't the AIM - 4 Falcon have a very poor combat record though? From a personal point of view, I'd use a Sidewinder/Sparrow combination although, I think the Sparrow combat record wasn't stellar either! 🤔

It depends whether you're going for as 'period look', or' something that actually works'...

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Quote from: jcf on February 01, 2024, 12:34:20 PM

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 31, 2024, 03:01:43 AMThose Canadian Drakens look disturbingly good! I'd just give them Falcons instead of Red Tops (why? ).

Falcon, Genies or Sparrow because Red Top would be very unlikely. 

Falcons would be 1st choice, since they were the Swedish prime armament, too. I have doubts with Sparrows, though, due to the radar, but Genies sound interesting! 

Didn't the AIM - 4 Falcon have a very poor combat record though? From a personal point of view, I'd use a Sidewinder/Sparrow combination although, I think the Sparrow combat record wasn't stellar either! 🤔

Actually, the AIM-4 was tested in Sweden against the early AIM-9B we bought for the Lansens and early Drakens, and the Falcons were found to be significantly better in the head-on attacks foreseen at the time. These results were shared with the Swiss as they were shopping for a Mach 2 interceptor, but they didn't buy  Swedish despite the Draken/Falcon package proposed, rather going for the Mirage III but in a quite sneaky move, arming them with Falcon missiles nevertheless.

Realistically speaking the only missile of those early generations that can actually be considered a fighter-vs-fighter weapon is the Sidewinder. The majority of the others were intended for the role of bomber interception.
I doubt very much that any of their contemporaries would have done any better than Falcon and Sparrow in Vietnam as they'd be under the limitations of the same ROE.

P-38 with R-2800's By Welmstreet (and some bombs and gun pods)

https://www.deviantart.com/welmstreet/art/P-38-1056506543

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Scribe some wing folds on and paint it blue.

At least the radiators are gone, but having left the turbosuperchargers,
the question is: where are the intercoolers?

Horton Ho237 Prototype 1949