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PR19_Kit

#975
July 05, 2024, 07:01:43 AM
Wouldn't he just! That's brill.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

ericr

#976
July 05, 2024, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: scooter on July 05, 2024, 06:51:49 AMTophe would enjoy what AI comes up with

 :o  :o  :o  ;D  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:

jcf

#977
July 05, 2024, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on July 03, 2024, 04:25:39 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 02, 2024, 05:55:55 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 02, 2024, 02:56:45 AMPerhaps it doesn't have any?  Performance would suffer but they are not compulsory.


The two the RAF had did without them, but were deemed 'unsuitable' as I recall.

But maybe they were the entire turbos that were missing, I'm not 100% sure?

The three ex-Armée de l'Air P-38 lightnings received by the RAF were normally aspirated Allison C-series V-1710-33 engines (without turbochargers), and right-hand propeller rotation (not counter).

Besides, the British had the Mosquito which was more than adequate for what they needed.
They weren't ex-French, they were Model 322-61-04 (322-B) and had been ordered for the RAF without turbosupercharged and handed engines. The Anglo-French Purchasing Committee had chosen the Allison V-1710-C15 engines for logistical reasons, it was the same engine used in the Curtiss Hawk 81A aircraft they had on order and the performance at medium altitudes was considered sufficient. Another issue was the availability of the turbosuperchargers as GE was still in the  process of ramping up production and the RAF and Armée de l'Air didn't want to wait.

The French Model 322-61-03 (322-F) were to be manufactured with French equipment and controls but none were built. The order for 667 aircraft was placed in April 1940, after the Fall of France in June 1940 the British took over the entire order but changed it in July of 1941 after it became clear that better performance at higher altitude was required. The first 154 were to be delivered as ordered as the Lightning I with the V-1710-C15 engine, the remaining 523 aircraft as Model 322-60-04 Lightning II with turbosupercharged V-1710-F5L and V-1710-F5R handed engines. The three Lightning I that were delivered were exactly what the RAF had ordered and met the performance requirements agreed to in the contract. That they didn't meet the RAF's new requirements based on experience gained in the interval between order and delivery was not the fault of Lockheed or the aircraft, contrary to the beloved British myth that it was a crap aircraft.

The other hoary myth is that the US wouldn't let them order turbosupercharged engines due to nebulous reasons of secrecy is also incorrect, during the original negotiations Lockheed had recommended that they order the turbosupercharged and handed engines because the V-1710-C15 was going to hamper the performance of the aircraft at altitude. Inside Lockheed the aircraft as ordered was referred to as the "castrated Lightning".

zenrat

#978
July 06, 2024, 04:52:42 AM
Sounds about right.
Ignore the suppliers recommendations and then blame them when it turns out they were right.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

scooter

#979
August 09, 2024, 05:44:42 PM
Artificial Stupid madness found on dA:

>>LINK!<< for when the token expires.
QuoteThis is what happens when you type a crucial word incorrectly into an AI art program. I meant to type Supermarine (the Spitfire's British aircraft manufacturer), but I accidentally typed submarine.
The F-106- 26 December 1956 to 8 August 1988
Gone But Not Forgotten

QuoteOh are you from Wales ?? Do you know a fella named Jonah ?? He used to live in whales for a while.
— Groucho Marx

My dA page: Scooternjng

seadude

#980
August 09, 2024, 06:08:36 PM
 :o  Oh, I like that. I really do.  :wub:  ;D
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

kerick

#981
August 09, 2024, 09:52:46 PM
No visible means of support...... or propulsion!
Seaview meets Spitfire.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

McColm

#982
August 09, 2024, 11:15:28 PM
That's wonderful, it would work in plastic just have to figure out where to place the engine/engines. As it's a submarine at the rear I presume.

ericr

#983
August 09, 2024, 11:58:42 PM

I agree that "Artificial Stupid madness" sometimes produces fun !

Scotaidh

#984
August 10, 2024, 04:29:36 AM
Quote from: kerick on August 09, 2024, 09:52:46 PMNo visible means of support...... or propulsion!
Seaview meets Spitfire.

Field generators  ;)
Thistle dew, Pig - thistle dew!

Where am I going?  And why am I in a handbasket?

It's dark in the dark when it's dark. Ancient Ogre Proverb

"All right, boyz - the plan iz 'Win.'  And if ya lose, it's yer own fault 'coz ya didn't follow the plan."

zenrat

#985
August 10, 2024, 05:27:18 AM
I can see Eric building something similar based on a shark or killer whale.  Or has he already?

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

ericr

#986
August 10, 2024, 10:10:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 10, 2024, 05:27:18 AMI can see Eric building something similar based on a shark or killer whale.  Or has he already?




well, not exactly, but ...





(and I still have a shark in my stash ... )



zenrat

#987
August 11, 2024, 05:21:48 AM
 :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

scooter

#988
August 17, 2024, 12:36:36 PM
Another Veeblefitzer monstrosity in "kit" form: The Veeblefitzer-Kawadanga VK-373B ''Sea Samurai" jet propelled sea-plane


>>LINK!!!!!<< for when the token expires.
The F-106- 26 December 1956 to 8 August 1988
Gone But Not Forgotten

QuoteOh are you from Wales ?? Do you know a fella named Jonah ?? He used to live in whales for a while.
— Groucho Marx

My dA page: Scooternjng

Wardukw

#989
August 17, 2024, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: scooter on August 17, 2024, 12:36:36 PMAnother Veeblefitzer monstrosity in "kit" form: The Veeblefitzer-Kawadanga VK-373B ''Sea Samurai" jet propelled sea-plane


>>LINK!!!!!<< for when the token expires.
The tag line " Models you can only build once" ..is that cause if you build one you never want to build another one??  :unsure:  ;)
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .
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