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PR19_Kit

To slightly misquote 'Crocodile Dundee'..........

That's not a lathe ..................



THAT'S a lathe!   ;D

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

In case anybody was wanting to use it for an "accurate" WWII period diorama, the Mini-Art
lathe is marked with the VDF logo, which was a combine formed post-WWII to market
German machine tools. 
;) 
The lathe is one of those manufactured by Heidenreich & Harbeck - Hamburg. H & H did
the small lathes in the product line, the E3 and V3. Turning diameters 480mm and 520mm
respectively, available between centres capacities ranging from 750mm to 4000mm.

Mossie

Some more from Mini Art. They already do a lot of 1/35 diorama stuff, but they've recently done some in 1/24.  Some 100l plastic barrels which come with hazard labels and some Jerry Cans. Might be useful for an apocalyptic diorama.

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I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

jcf


Mossie

Raupenschleper Ost with 7.5cm Pak40/4.

Would make a good moon rover.

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I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Wardukw

Quote from: Mossie on February 26, 2025, 06:42:51 AMRaupenschleper Ost with 7.5cm Pak40/4.

Would make a good moon rover.

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If that is anything like their T-55s it will be a fantastic little kit 😍
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Mossie

I forgot to include the link, there's some CAD images. Looks very detailed.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Wardukw

Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 01:18:06 AMI forgot to include the link, there's some CAD images. Looks very detailed.
Mate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Mossie

Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Wardukw

Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
Knowing these guys there'll be more parts in the pak 40 gun than in the entire Italeri version of this kit 😂
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Beermonster58

Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
Knowing these guys there'll be more parts in the pak 40 gun than in the entire Italeri version of this kit 😂
Tell me about it! I just don't get the obsession manufacturers have in competing with each other to see how many individual parts they can cram in a box. All it does is result in an insanely complex model full of stupidly small bits that's a pain in the central orifice to build. Individual track links are the worst thing ever. I absolutely hate them (along with p/e parts!!)
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

Wardukw

Quote from: Beermonster58 on March 01, 2025, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
Knowing these guys there'll be more parts in the pak 40 gun than in the entire Italeri version of this kit 😂
Tell me about it! I just don't get the obsession manufacturers have in competing with each other to see how many individual parts they can cram in a box. All it does is result in an insanely complex model full of stupidly small bits that's a pain in the central orifice to build. Individual track links are the worst thing ever. I absolutely hate them (along with p/e parts!!)
Honestly..im not sure why Beer mate but I'll bet it's a prestige thing...you'll remember how over the yrs how a kits ability to be amazing was not also quality but parts count..the more they had the more detailed ..the more realistic...of course that meant the little tiny models..like the RSO ..Kettengrad  Panzer 1 were nightmares to put together if those hundreds of little parts didn't fit together..ask me how I know  :banghead:
Individual track and PE are coffee and tea matey..either ya do or you don't..im a coffee guy 😆
Individual track..when it's good track is perfect for little models like this as there's no strain on the running gear ..unlike the Italeri RSO which bent everything cause the tracks just sucked ..as all Italeri track pretty much does.
The draw back of indi track when it's this small ..the carpet monster could have a field day ..even tho I do love them they can be nightmares but when there good ..dude nothing beats em ..ya just gotta get a feel or a rhythm for em ..I still havent mastered em totally yet but not bending the return rollers or drive sprockets cause the tracks are to tight ..brilliant  ;D
PE ..you should see how many different tools I've got just for PE ..mate I tell ya ..it's bloody refreshing to come across a kit without it 😍
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe

I'm in the camp of avoiding PE and individual links if I can... and I'll choose a tank kit that doesn't have them, vs one that does.
I've said it before but if the tank has live track (like most US ones), then indy links don't make sense unless you're going to depict something burnt out.

As to the tracks bending the axles, I have replaced the drive sprocket axles with a metal shaft through spanning the hull. Not helpful for a Sherman rear axle, but the Dragon system of a Z-shaped unit you can adjust has merit and can be replicated for other brands.

My Opinion, and YMMV as always.

Wardukw

Quote from: Rick Lowe on March 01, 2025, 05:35:14 PMI'm in the camp of avoiding PE and individual links if I can... and I'll choose a tank kit that doesn't have them, vs one that does.
I've said it before but if the tank has live track (like most US ones), then indy links don't make sense unless you're going to depict something burnt out.

As to the tracks bending the axles, I have replaced the drive sprocket axles with a metal shaft through spanning the hull. Not helpful for a Sherman rear axle, but the Dragon system of a Z-shaped unit you can adjust has merit and can be replicated for other brands.

My Opinion, and YMMV as always.
In total agreement with ya on the live track bud ...tanks like the M26..47..48..60 and so on keeping there track tight is nearly impossible with torsion bar suspension so a little bit of sag is fine ..metal indi tracks are perfect for that ..russian tanks on the other ..early jobs ..IS 1 ,2 and 3 ..the KV series of tanks I've seen huge amounts of sag and it does look cool ....but it's like most things...we have our likes and dislikes .
I've built many dozens of tanks with rubber band tracks..still have some now and I've got alot without..doesn't worry me really but I tell ya Rick mate..if somebody makes weighted rubber band track ...awesome 😅
As for the bending thing .. tanks are easy to sort out..things like the Opel maultier tho..no chance..indi tracks are perfect..there's no weight or pull..luckily tho..there's very few kits like that 😀
Link and lenght tracks are good..best of both worlds nearly...easy to use and make look weighted ...fast to put together  :thumbsup:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Beermonster58

Quote from: Wardukw on March 01, 2025, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on March 01, 2025, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
Knowing these guys there'll be more parts in the pak 40 gun than in the entire Italeri version of this kit 😂
Tell me about it! I just don't get the obsession manufacturers have in competing with each other to see how many individual parts they can cram in a box. All it does is result in an insanely complex model full of stupidly small bits that's a pain in the central orifice to build. Individual track links are the worst thing ever. I absolutely hate them (along with p/e parts!!)
Honestly..im not sure why Beer mate but I'll bet it's a prestige thing...you'll remember how over the yrs how a kits ability to be amazing was not also quality but parts count..the more they had the more detailed ..the more realistic...of course that meant the little tiny models..like the RSO ..Kettengrad  Panzer 1 were nightmares to put together if those hundreds of little parts didn't fit together..ask me how I know  :banghead:
Individual track and PE are coffee and tea matey..either ya do or you don't..im a coffee guy 😆
Individual track..when it's good track is perfect for little models like this as there's no strain on the running gear ..unlike the Italeri RSO which bent everything cause the tracks just sucked ..as all Italeri track pretty much does.
The draw back of indi track when it's this small ..the carpet monster could have a field day ..even tho I do love them they can be nightmares but when there good ..dude nothing beats em ..ya just gotta get a feel or a rhythm for em ..I still havent mastered em totally yet but not bending the return rollers or drive sprockets cause the tracks are to tight ..brilliant  ;D
PE ..you should see how many different tools I've got just for PE ..mate I tell ya ..it's bloody refreshing to come across a kit without it 😍
Quote from: Wardukw on March 01, 2025, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on March 01, 2025, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 27, 2025, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 27, 2025, 09:57:22 AMMate ..detail on this will be scary..Dragons was serious for such a small machine..individual track links  :o
Miniarts will be scarey to..possibly very scary  ;D

Looks like it, Miniart seem to go nuts these days

Here's the link, finally.  :banghead:  :lol:
https://miniart-models.com/product/35483-7-5cm-pak-40-4-selbstfahrlafette-rso/
Knowing these guys there'll be more parts in the pak 40 gun than in the entire Italeri version of this kit 😂
Tell me about it! I just don't get the obsession manufacturers have in competing with each other to see how many individual parts they can cram in a box. All it does is result in an insanely complex model full of stupidly small bits that's a pain in the central orifice to build. Individual track links are the worst thing ever. I absolutely hate them (along with p/e parts!!)
Honestly..im not sure why Beer mate but I'll bet it's a prestige thing...you'll remember how over the yrs how a kits ability to be amazing was not also quality but parts count..the more they had the more detailed ..the more realistic...of course that meant the little tiny models..like the RSO ..Kettengrad  Panzer 1 were nightmares to put together if those hundreds of little parts didn't fit together..ask me how I know  :banghead:
Individual track and PE are coffee and tea matey..either ya do or you don't..im a coffee guy 😆
Individual track..when it's good track is perfect for little models like this as there's no strain on the running gear ..unlike the Italeri RSO which bent everything cause the tracks just sucked ..as all Italeri track pretty much does.
The draw back of indi track when it's this small ..the carpet monster could have a field day ..even tho I do love them they can be nightmares but when there good ..dude nothing beats em ..ya just gotta get a feel or a rhythm for em ..I still havent mastered em totally yet but not bending the return rollers or drive sprockets cause the tracks are to tight ..brilliant  ;D
PE ..you should see how many different tools I've got just for PE ..mate I tell ya ..it's bloody refreshing to come across a kit without it 😍

😊👍. Well, I think we're in broad agreement here. Personally, I'd go for one piece tracks any time even though it's almost akin to heresy nowadays to say that 😂.
I certainly would not  buy any AFV kit that only offered individual track links. Horses for courses I guess 😂
Link and length tracks are, I think, a fine compromise. As for p/e parts? Well, any that are included in kits I buy are binned immediately, and, unconditionally
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!