Quote from: scooter on April 23, 2024, 07:31:52 AM

Quote from: zenrat on April 23, 2024, 05:39:33 AMI've just had a thought about the rear end.

First class lounge bar with panorama window...

With or without a Vistadome?

Now that's a great idea!

Quote from: scooter on April 23, 2024, 07:31:52 AM

Quote from: zenrat on April 23, 2024, 05:39:33 AMI've just had a thought about the rear end.

First class lounge bar with panorama window...

With or without a Vistadome?

Seats in the pylon?

Rear end lounge bar would be situated under the tail so no room for a vista dome.  Not there anyway.

Thanks for the train interior info guys.   

It needs a window in the back end so you can see where you have been.

Quote from: kerick on April 24, 2024, 10:06:12 AMIt needs a window in the back end so you can see where you have been.

And to point and laugh at the angry peasantry shaking fists and pitchforks at you, because of the noise... 

Quote from: Rick Lowe on April 24, 2024, 02:39:52 PM

Quote from: kerick on April 24, 2024, 10:06:12 AMIt needs a window in the back end so you can see where you have been.

And to point and laugh at the angry peasantry shaking fists and pitchforks at you, because of the noise... 

It's up to the pilot to figure out where I'm going. I just want to see where I've been. I'm paraphrasing a B-52 tail gunner.

 

No matter where you go, there you are.

Quote from: zenrat on April 25, 2024, 05:29:50 AM

No matter where you go, there you are.

Excelsior!  they shouted.   


  And whilst on that subject, the Star Trek USS Sutherland  (somebody was a 'Hornblower' reader)   had "There will be an answer, let it be......" on its commissioning plate. 

 

Quote from: Rheged on April 25, 2024, 05:39:40 AM

Quote from: zenrat on April 25, 2024, 05:29:50 AM

No matter where you go, there you are.

Excelsior!  they shouted.   


  And whilst on that subject, the Star Trek USS Sutherland  (somebody was a 'Hornblower' reader)   had "There will be an answer, let it be......" on its commissioning plate. 

Or a Beatles fan

Gondor

Random thought: on a layout like the Rotodyne's, and given a free choice of engines, wouldn't it be better to have pusher props?

There are three means of entry to the fuselage: two side doors at the front and the rear ramp. Having pusher props would mean the blades would be well out of the way of all three, with the tailplanes and fins dissuading you from walking out of the rear and turning forwards too close to the fuselage. However with tractor props you've got to walk dangerously close to them to use the front doors.

In all the (very few) pics I've seen of people boarding and leaving the 'dyne the port Eland has been stopped.

I guess the starboard one drove the hydraulics and electrics.

It's possible the Eland may not have worked as a pusher, although I can't think of a sensible reason why not, apart from the fact that the prop would have had to have been IN the exhaust stream.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 12, 2024, 06:53:49 AMIt's possible the Eland may not have worked as a pusher, although I can't think of a sensible reason why not, apart from the fact that the prop would have had to have been IN the exhaust stream.

Or could the exhaust be run through the spinner*?




[*: Obviously you wouldn't be using the original spinner, a different spinner would have to be designed.]

Turboprops have been mounted as pushers before: look at the Beechcraft Starship for example. I also specified a free choice of engines, so if there are some that aren't suitable, just use different ones.

Stopping one engine for safety might be acceptable in civilian use, but I doubt that military users would want it to be mandatory, given that one of the principle advantages of VTOL transports is that they can be used in "hotter" situations than big, runway-dependent fixed-wings.

Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2024, 10:18:44 AMStopping one engine for safety might be acceptable in civilian use, but I doubt that military users would want it to be mandatory, given that one of the principle advantages of VTOL transports is that they can be used in "hotter" situations than big, runway-dependent fixed-wings.

Just as a point of reference, the three times I flew out of my FOB whilst in Iraq, and the two times I flew in (both back from R&R & leave), we embarked/disembarked from the rear ramp.  And, IIRC, the flight crew did have a mix of engines shutdown and running.  The personnel door up front was for flight crew only.