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Captured He-119 V10 - DEAD!

Started by PR19_Kit, September 07, 2024, 06:57:29 AM

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Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 11, 2024, 11:41:35 AMAnd even better with both wings extended.  :thumbsup:



Not to mention LOTS of PSR.............
Oh that does look so much better 😍
Now it's high altitude mate 👍
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2024, 12:14:58 AMNow it's high altitude mate 👍


Absolutely, I may even put some camera ports in the belly. There's an area behind the engines and forward of the #3 crew member that's in just about the right place too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

May I suggest rounding the wing tips.  Similar to the originals.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on September 12, 2024, 04:11:21 AMMay I suggest rounding the wing tips.  Similar to the originals.


I started off by doing that, but it didn't look right with the almost equi-tapered outer wing sections, so I re-filed them to the almost Brit shape I've got now.

Of course with that length of wing there's scope for almost ANY shape...................
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

loupgarou

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 12, 2024, 04:22:56 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 12, 2024, 04:11:21 AMMay I suggest rounding the wing tips.  Similar to the originals.


I started off by doing that, but it didn't look right with the almost equi-tapered outer wing sections, so I re-filed them to the almost Brit shape I've got now.

Of course with that length of wing there's scope for almost ANY shape...................

But if you filed and re-filed the wingtips, now they are SHORTER, so you NEED to lengthen them again... ;D
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

frank2056

Big improvement with the longer wings. It looks like it would have been a PSR queen without the extra wingspan, so not really that much extra work?

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on September 12, 2024, 04:11:21 AMMay I suggest rounding the wing tips.  Similar to the originals.


Actually I think you're right Fred.

Looking at it as a whole, and not just at the wings on their own, it makes more sense with rounded wing tips to match the tailplane, so that's what I've done now,


Quote from: frank2056 on September 12, 2024, 08:48:34 AMBig improvement with the longer wings. It looks like it would have been a PSR queen without the extra wingspan, so not really that much extra work?


It already WAS a PSR queen, specially at the wing joints. The F-94 wings were quite a bit thinner than the He-119 ones, so I added a short styrene spar to stiffen the joint and aligned the upper surfaces of the wings. Then I added a pair of short padding sections on the underside and PSR'd them to death!

Hopefully the last PSR session has just taken place, fingers crossed.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

I think I've got to the end of the PSRing at last!

Originally I'd masked up the WHOLE cockpit area while I was priming it, the thought of masking all those umpteen tri-angular windows was too much to think about (there's over 30 of them!) but now I've got this far it IS time to mask them.

What a hopeless task it is, so far it's taken me 2 DAYS and I'm not even half way through it, the tiny bits of masking tape that have to be stripped off before painting just don't want to come off without pulling the adjacent masked bit off with them!

In frustration I checked the Web to see if anyone actually did a set of masks for this bizarre looking aeroplane, and amazingly they do! There's a company in Canada, Kitmasx, who makes a set exactly for this Valom kit, so I've thrown money at it and bought a set.

So work on this will come to halt for a short while.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

I admire your attempt at masking this but don't blame you for buying a set of masks which may well not fit exactly.  :thumbsup:
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Here's how far it's got so far, and it'll pause for a bit till the combined Canadian and UK post offices do their thing.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 14, 2024, 08:01:55 AMIn frustration I checked the Web to see if anyone actually did a set of masks for this bizarre looking aeroplane, and amazingly they do! There's a company in Canada, Kitmasx, who makes a set exactly for this Valom kit, so I've thrown money at it and bought a set.


It's amazing what's out there when you look.

Looking good in primer Kit  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Amazingly the masking set for this device arrived TODAY! That's less than a week from the far west of Canada!

I'm wholly impressed with their speed of shipping, lack of complicated paperwork and the packaging, a very substantial bubble-wrap envelope and the product was perfect when it arrived. Full marks KitMaskx!  :thumbsup:

What I should have done was read the small print though as their standard masks are done in pale grey vinyl and I'd have preferred the no-cost option of Tamiya tape, but that's the rubs.  :banghead:

I've never used vinyl masks before and it's a bit of a learning curve, just to SEE them when they're on the model even. So far I've got about a1/3 of them applied, and sadly some needed trimming when in position, which isn't easy as the scalpel blade doesn't seem to cut the vinyl quite as well as they do with tape, and it's taken a few goes to trim the masks that need it.

Just figuring out which of the zillions of tri-angular masks fit where on that crazy canopy is a job in itself, but I'm getting there. I'm not surprised that TomZ decided to ditch the whole idea of that canopy with his Einsitzer He-119!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

I've got all the little vinyl masks in place now, and only 3-4 needed trimming, but there's three of them left over, oooer...........

And I did the VERY last PSR on the wing joints, re-primed the whole thing and sprayed the underside............

YELLOW!

A pity that's not very bright, but that's life. Remember it's going to a captured aircraft and many had yellow undersides.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Yellow is a fav colour of mine so top marks there alone 😁😁

A hint for ya matey ..having had the pleasure of vinyl masks before ..a Junkers 88 ..the good ol No11 blades don't  like em ..surgical knife blades ..they slice straight thru vinyl with ease mate .
I'm thinking cause there so thin ..also quite sharp  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

I tried both sorts of blades on the KitMaskx vinyl and they both did the same, dragged the mask along rather than cut it. I'll stick (did you see what I did then?  ;D ) to Tamiya tape masks in future for preference.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit