Now look what you've gone and made me do:

We likes! 

Quote from: Pellson on October 06, 2024, 01:41:12 PM

Quote from: Gondor on October 06, 2024, 01:26:48 PM

Quote from: Pellson on October 06, 2024, 01:20:18 PMHaving tried different pylon and missile setups, I'm currently leaning towards a 2 x Skyflash + 2 x Sidewinder load, the former under the outer wings and the latter under the intakes as per the J35J. The Skyflashes are obviously bigger and above all longer than the Falcons the later Draken did carry, but it's not looking totally out of place, and it will be possible to work them in into my kind of backstory. As you might have noticed, I like to keep things at least almost within the reach of a possible reality, and that can be a very narrow path to wander.

So a pair of Rb 71's along with a pair of RB24J's as your loadout, very reasonable I think.

Gondor

Aye, mate. That's what we're looking at, currently. 

EDIT: Almost. I'll go for the Rb74/AIM-9L instead of the Rb24J. These are within reach, chronologically, and a much, much better missile.

If it were me I'd be tempted to get or fabricate some LAU-105 launchers and give this thing four Rb74s/AIM-9Ls in addition to a pair of Skyflashes.  Looking great so far.  That Draken with Gripen wings looks really nice too, give it some AMRAAMs or something 

Right.

Back home again, and even if there's loads of work to care for professionally, I'm as usual conducting "aerodynamic studies"^* on some more or less completed models while being caught up in Teams meetings. One of those study subjects is the complete but unpainted J35A, which has brought me to thinking about the scheme. Should one go late J35J grey over grey scheme, optimised for low to medium level air combat, or should one rather stay with the more JMN original Draken camouflage - which in all fairness is a more colourful and pretty scheme than the later J35J air superiority scheme? Well, that depends, methinks, on time frame.

Any Draken up to 1989 would be dark and murky on top, and medium bluegrey underneath. However, in the late 1980's, as the fighter Viggens became grey, the sole remaining J35 wing, the F10, also tried out a grey air superiority scheme on their J35J's, and from ca 1990, all single seat Drakens were grey. However, while the J35J's as well as the JA37's stuck to their hi-vis national insignia until replaced, the new JAS39A's already in 1996 tried toned down blue and yellow insignia as well as entirely greyed out ones, standardising on the latter. (At the same time, stencilling was minimised, as that was seen as peacetime H&S stuff rather than applicable for war).

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Awful photo from a book showing the RAF-style toned down insignia trialled for a short period on 39801, autumn 1996

Anyway - from the above follows that an early Draken could very theoretically have been kept in the old colours for money saving reasons, but most likely, it would at least have turned grey towards the end of it's service (given that I've set 1998 as out-of-service date in my backstory above). Under the same auspices, one would have expected the insignia to stay hi-vis, but one could suggest some minimalisation of stencilling on a grey machine. One could, actually, even consider a toned-down but still coloured insignia as per the trials Gripen For a wartime, or even high readiness scenario, I would have expected no hi-vis individual nos, or similar, rather reverting to yellow on the old dark scheme or black on the newer grey.

Right (again). Having now set this out to myself, I shall now continue my aerodynamic studies, mulling on the above.. 

*) Those who know, know.. 

Honestly I like both, though the older scheme might look better on the Draken.  Grey would be interesting though.

Quote from: Spino on October 14, 2024, 10:16:54 AMHonestly I like both, though the older scheme might look better on the Draken.  Grey would be interesting though.

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Since you obviously have nothing better to do than wait for Teams to reconnect yet again, might they ever have done a Draken in the Viggen multi-green splinter scheme? 

Oh dear, serves me right. Immediately after posting a demonic suggestion, my mind drifted off to a place where a 1:32 scale Draken is rendered as a 1:72 scale dual-cycle hybrid turbo-ramjet powered attack bomber (embiggened version of the SR-71's magnificent burner thingies). I can see it crystal clear in my mind's eye, all those acres of grubby riveted titanium and gaping jetpipe. Is there no peace for the wicked?

Quote from: steelpillow on October 14, 2024, 12:16:22 PMSince you obviously have nothing better to do than wait for Teams to reconnect yet again, might they ever have done a Draken in the Viggen multi-green splinter scheme? 

Do be my guest.. 

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Always liked that multi green splinter scheme 

Could not resist to post mine - using the "real" Fields & Meadows pattern from above (had found a full 3-side overview as reference!) on a whiffy attack Draken:


1:72 Saab A 35 G "Draken"; aircraft "02 Red" of the Svenska Flygvapnet (Swedish Air Force) Västgöta Wing (F 6); Karlsborg Air Base, 1974 (Whif/modified Revell/Mistercraft kit) by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr


1:72 Saab A 35 G "Draken"; aircraft "02 Red" of the Svenska Flygvapnet (Swedish Air Force) Västgöta Wing (F 6); Karlsborg Air Base, 1974 (Whif/modified Revell/Mistercraft kit) by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Not too far off... 

    

Quote from: steelpillow on October 07, 2024, 11:06:07 AMNow look what you've gone and made me do:

OK this thread is having the same affect on me too Steel mate..your design combined with the warped thoughts I'm having are leading me down path to slight ruin 😅
Pellson made for something that old your doing very nice work indeed 😁