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The Westland Westminster and its derivatives

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Mossie

#30
February 13, 2025, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 13, 2025, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: Mossie on February 13, 2025, 01:40:27 AMYour welcome guys.  :thumbsup: It'd make an impressive model, fuselage would be over a foot long in 1/72.
Over a foot long ???  :o  :o
In 72nd scale???  :o
Well I'm definitely not going to build this in 35th 😳
It's be bloody massive..even in 48th she's gonna be a big girl too ...but doable  ;)

Yeah, she's a big lass, only about 1/2 metre shorter than a CH-53. It's hard to get a sense of scale with the Westminster for some reason. This photo borrowed from Secret Projects just about does it, the blokes stood close give a good idea of just how big it is.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Wardukw

#31
February 13, 2025, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 13, 2025, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 13, 2025, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: Mossie on February 13, 2025, 01:40:27 AMYour welcome guys.  :thumbsup: It'd make an impressive model, fuselage would be over a foot long in 1/72.
Over a foot long ???  :o  :o
In 72nd scale???  :o
Well I'm definitely not going to build this in 35th 😳
It's be bloody massive..even in 48th she's gonna be a big girl too ...but doable  ;)

Yeah, she's a big lass, only about 1/2 metre shorter than a CH-53. It's hard to get a sense of scale with the Westminster for some reason. This photo borrowed from Secret Projects just about does it, the blokes stood close give a good idea of just how big it is.
Those pics Thorvic chucked up show that beautiful off well and that's really pushing me away from the full covered or completely built chopper and more towards the skeletal version...still tho. ...it's a bloody big helicopter.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Old Wombat

#32
February 13, 2025, 06:12:24 PM
A bit more focus, & a ramp at the back, & it would have been a good competitor to the CH-53 (& CH-54).
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Wardukw

#33
February 13, 2025, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on February 13, 2025, 06:12:24 PMA bit more focus, & a ramp at the back, & it would have been a good competitor to the CH-53 (& CH-54).
I've been in and around a CH-53 and that's a big chopper but I'm getting a feeling the Westminster is wider ..it looks wider .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe

#34
February 13, 2025, 07:40:50 PM
For a late 50s design, that's quite a modern-looking canopy/nose.

Wardukw

#35
February 13, 2025, 07:48:00 PM
Is it me or can ya see similar lines to the Mil 26 HALO  ...strangely I can with the nose and overall lines .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Wardukw

#36
February 13, 2025, 08:11:19 PM
I'm definitely going to be a wiffy Westminster..a skeletal version  :wacko:  :wacko:
In 48th too  ;)
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe

#37
February 14, 2025, 12:25:16 AM
That'll make it more interesting - and more work, but YBM... :thumbsup:

Mossie

#38
February 14, 2025, 02:19:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on February 13, 2025, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: Mossie on February 13, 2025, 01:45:46 PMYeah, she's a big lass, only about 1/2 metre shorter than a CH-53. It's hard to get a sense of scale with the Westminster for some reason. This photo borrowed from Secret Projects just about does it, the blokes stood close give a good idea of just how big it is.
Those pics Thorvic chucked up show that beautiful off well and that's really pushing me away from the full covered or completely built chopper and more towards the skeletal version...still tho. ...it's a bloody big helicopter.

Helps if I actually attach the photo...  :banghead:

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I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

PR19_Kit

#39
February 14, 2025, 02:34:49 AM
And after all the shennanigens with the Westminster and the Rotodyne, what did they end up with in RAF service?

The Belvedere!  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

#40
February 14, 2025, 04:24:37 AM
Their big miss was a tricycle arrangement for the landing gear & the main gear being in sponsons on the lower fuselage, it's one of the things that makes the CH-53 family so versatile.


Oh, & the ramp, much more useful than clamshell doors! :thumbsup:
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

NARSES2

#41
February 14, 2025, 05:14:38 AM
In those photos of the camouflaged example at the Helicopter Museum she appears to have a couple of suitcases in the forward exposed compartment.......or is it just me ?
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Gondor

#42
February 14, 2025, 05:58:12 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2025, 05:14:38 AMIn those photos of the camouflaged example at the Helicopter Museum she appears to have a couple of suitcases in the forward exposed compartment.......or is it just me ?

Are those gloves and a picnic hamper above them?  :-\

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

#43
February 14, 2025, 06:58:12 AM
That's exactly what they are, yes.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

#44
February 14, 2025, 09:55:28 AM
I have just jotted down some figures from part of the Westminsters brochure for the Civil version

Overall Length 86' 9"

Overall Height 18' 4"

Wheel Track 19' 9"

Main Rotor Diameter 72'

Yeah, it would be BIG in 1/72

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....
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