Quote from: zenrat on March 10, 2025, 03:40:52 AM...it looks like it had enough to carry with just the single mount let alone the quad.  I'm going to try to mod the Carriers suspension as though it was loaded right down on the bump stops.

Depending on the amount of jiggery pokery you want to do, the Australian 2 Pounder carrier development addressed the weight issue by moving the engine forward


Still pretty interested to see how you go about this, the concept is terrific

Where does the driver sit?

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 03:56:03 AMWhere does the driver sit?

Next to it. Just see the Helmet. The Australian LP2 Carrier was used, extended just a bit.


The rest of the crew appear to hang on for grim death on the back I suppose.
Walk around from the Aussie Armour and Artillery museum in Cairns

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMNo, Kit misunderstood.

Situation normal there. 

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

Quote from: loupgarou on March 11, 2025, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

They did build a prototype with a structure like  that but it was solid with a couple of machine guns on the top with a chap inside ..it was called the Praying Mantis ..that was designed to fire above hedgerows..that I believe is at Bovington .
That was never used.

Quote from: Wardukw on March 11, 2025, 09:58:30 AM

Quote from: loupgarou on March 11, 2025, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

They did build a prototype with a structure like  that but it was solid with a couple of machine guns on the top with a chap inside ..it was called the Praying Mantis ..that was designed to fire above hedgerows..that I believe is at Bovington .
That was never used.

This- https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/uk/praying-mantis  would be the device you mean!  As against the DUKW  shown here:-  https://mikesresearch.com/2019/06/06/dukws-at-pointe-du-hoc-on-d-day/

Quote from: Rheged on March 11, 2025, 10:05:33 AM

Quote from: Wardukw on March 11, 2025, 09:58:30 AM

Quote from: loupgarou on March 11, 2025, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

They did build a prototype with a structure like  that but it was solid with a couple of machine guns on the top with a chap inside ..it was called the Praying Mantis ..that was designed to fire above hedgerows..that I believe is at Bovington .
That was never used.

This- https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/uk/praying-mantis  would be the device you mean!  As against the DUKW  shown here:-  https://mikesresearch.com/2019/06/06/dukws-at-pointe-du-hoc-on-d-day/

Yep Rheged mate ..that's the wee bugga 

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AM

Quote from: kerick on March 10, 2025, 07:51:54 AMI misunderstood. I thought the hedge trimmer bit was your invention. Sir Hobart would have made quite a whiffer. Or you could say he was but at 1/1 scale.

No, Kit misunderstood.  The phot is one I found on the interweb.  It is of a Carrier on which had been mounted a Flak 30/38.  It is nothing to do with Percy.
AFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

Next stage is to build the gun up to check fit to the Carrier.  And then build some gun shields.  I am thinking something like a Wirbelwind gunshield with the rear missing.

I'm liking the idea of the Whirlwind gun shield..the second prototype used a very simple 3 sided shield which might fit the bill ..ya don't want to use a actual Whirlwind gun shield..that turret was 16mm thick homogeneous steel armour..that'd be far to heavy ..the design tho..yep 

Quote from: Rheged on March 11, 2025, 10:05:33 AM

Quote from: Wardukw on March 11, 2025, 09:58:30 AM

Quote from: loupgarou on March 11, 2025, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

They did build a prototype with a structure like  that but it was solid with a couple of machine guns on the top with a chap inside ..it was called the Praying Mantis ..that was designed to fire above hedgerows..that I believe is at Bovington .
That was never used.

This- https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/uk/praying-mantis  would be the device you mean!  As against the DUKW  shown here:-  https://mikesresearch.com/2019/06/06/dukws-at-pointe-du-hoc-on-d-day/

Pity the poor guy on top of that thing! No protection and attracting to much attention!

Quote from: kerick on March 11, 2025, 06:17:11 PM

Quote from: Rheged on March 11, 2025, 10:05:33 AM

Quote from: Wardukw on March 11, 2025, 09:58:30 AM

Quote from: loupgarou on March 11, 2025, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 11, 2025, 06:35:24 AM

Quote from: zenrat on March 11, 2025, 02:53:06 AMAFAIK there were not any Carriers amongst the armour his people modded.

I think they modified a couple by adding fire escape turntable ladders, borrowed from London Fire Brigade, with mg's fitted to the top of the ladder, but I don't know if they were actually used ?

I thnik it was DUKW that were used. 

They did build a prototype with a structure like  that but it was solid with a couple of machine guns on the top with a chap inside ..it was called the Praying Mantis ..that was designed to fire above hedgerows..that I believe is at Bovington .
That was never used.

This- https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/uk/praying-mantis  would be the device you mean!  As against the DUKW  shown here:-  https://mikesresearch.com/2019/06/06/dukws-at-pointe-du-hoc-on-d-day/

Pity the poor guy on top of that thing! No protection and attracting to much attention!

A bloke actually was inside that arm ..this was not a remote weapons system by any means .
There's the driver down stairs and a bloke upstairs when the arm was raised ..talk about a cramped work environment 😆

IIRC there was a 'Gutted Carrier' that they developed, as a load-carrier; a tracked trailer, if you will.

https://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2012/04/churchill-mk-iii-and-mk-iv-avre-double.html

I was thinking of the guy up on the fire ladder. Plus the danger of tipping over!

Quote from: kerick on March 11, 2025, 09:58:00 PMI was thinking of the guy up on the fire ladder. Plus the danger of tipping over!

Ahhhh and yeah agreed..im not a fan of standing up at the top of a swaying ladder ..no thanks 😀