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The English Electric Dalgety, the 'Just in case' project.

Started by PR19_Kit, March 04, 2025, 06:46:33 AM

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PR19_Kit

The Canberra prototype didn't have the square topped fin/rudder of all the production marks, at the time of its first flight it had a round top, as did the elevator. At Roland Beamont's  suggestion they reduced the area of all the tail surfaces to avoid the over-control that he'd experienced during testing.

So likewise the Dalgety has a similarly curved rudder top.



The A.1, as the Canberra was called before it was named, also had a long dorsal fin, and the Dalgety will have one too, but that's got to wait till I've joined the fuselage halves, and that'll have to wait till I find those Resikit wheel wells. :(

And in case you feel like asking, there really SHOULD a be a  tri-angular slot underneath the trailing edge of the tailplane. It was to allow the tailplane's incidence to be adjusted, and all Canberras had them, but very few models do.................  :-\
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

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Sweet mate and your PSR is gonna be well worth the work 👍
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
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Rick Lowe

Just had a stray thought about whether you may have considered prop strike...  :unsure:

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rick Lowe on March 13, 2025, 09:29:06 PMJust had a stray thought about whether you may have considered prop strike...  :unsure:


Yes Rick, I checked for that on the drawing, and also now I've got the main bits together and it's OK.

I found the Resikit gear bays and they're VERY impressive, but I'm not sure if they'll fit the older Airfix kit. It may need some surgery to insert them.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Hmmm, how to get the Resikit main gear wells into the old Airfix B6 when they were designed for the new B(I)8 or PR9? Specially as I've already glued both wing halves together...........

Answer, take one sharp scalpel and one razor saw and have at it!



I measured where the insert would fit and marked it out on the wing's undersurface and cut along those lines. Then a saw cut along the wing joint and lo and behold, the 'cover plate' bit came off in one piece. Not only that, but when the insert was slid into place the 'cover plate' fitted a treat back where it was before!

RESULT!  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

DogfighterZen

"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Wardukw

If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

I've got that Resikit insert glued in place, and the 'cover plate' put back where it should be, and that side looks pretty good now.

The Resikit nose gear bay doesn't fit quite so well, but it's intended for a later generation Airfix Canberra of course. A short fettling session with some heavy duty cutters and a large file, not to mention liberal applications of superglue, have sorted that out and it's nicely in place now.

Having almost finished fettling the bottom half of the port wing with its Griffon engine, I started to remove the jet pipe from the upper half too, and suddenly found I'd cut the wing in half...................  :banghead:

Not quite what I originally intended, but as before, it's nothing that a liberal application of superglue and some PSR couldn't sort out. It's back together again now, and awaiting the glue to cure totally before I build the upper rear fairing in the same manner as the lower one.

If I'd have added the Resikit main gear bay to the port wing first, it'd have been the only bit that would have been holding the wing together!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 15, 2025, 07:04:06 AMThe Resikit nose gear bay doesn't fit quite so well, but it's intended for a later generation Airfix Canberra of course. A short fettling session with some heavy duty cutters and a large file, not to mention liberal applications of superglue, have sorted that out and it's nicely in place now.


Nothing like a good old heavy-duty cutting and filing session  :thumbsup:

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 15, 2025, 07:04:06 AMHaving almost finished fettling the bottom half of the port wing with its Griffon engine, I started to remove the jet pipe from the upper half too, and suddenly found I'd cut the wing in half...................  :banghead:


I had foreseen that problem when I gave an old Airfix Meteor some underslung engines. I glued a spar into one section of the wing halves I was cutting up and used the uncut part of the wing to act as a guide when glueing the cut parts to the spar. Worked a treat. Only problem is that you have to think of this before you cut more than one upper or lower wing section into parts  :-\

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Gondor on March 15, 2025, 07:14:44 AMOnly problem is that you have to think of this before you cut more than one upper or lower wing section into parts  :-\


Exactly. The only bit holding both halves together was a narrow circular strip immediately behind the Griffon, and with the entire weight of the wing hanging on it, on separate edges, it gave up the ghost. I'll think of another way of doing it on the starboard wing.

On which subject, here are both wings, one with a Resikit wheel bay installed and the other minus the rest of its jetpipe.!

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Lots more progress on the Dalgety.

Canberras being notorious tail sitters, I was conscious about the need for mucho nose weight, but I forgot to bring any car tyre balance weights with me when I came out to my 'country home' this time.  :banghead:

But I do have quite a stack of Blu Tack, so I've spent a while stuffing it into every space I can find forward of the main wheels, even inside the bomb aimer's window as it'll be sanded and painted over when it's done, just like the A.1 prototype. I've got an empty space inside the starboard Griffon engine just in case it needs a tad more though.

Having done all that I glued the fuselage halves together, not as simple as it could have been as they didn't fit all that well, and needed some levering to line up. Plus the tailplanes, rudder and bomb bay doors are all glued in place now too.

It's getting there.


Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Captain Canada

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2025, 04:39:45 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on March 13, 2025, 09:29:06 PMJust had a stray thought about whether you may have considered prop strike...  :unsure:


Yes Rick, I checked for that on the drawing, and also now I've got the main bits together and it's OK.


Figured you would have, it's just me being 'just in case'... :thumbsup:

Dalgety is making good progress.

zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 15, 2025, 04:06:51 PM...Canberras being notorious tail sitters, I was conscious about the need for mucho nose weight, but I forgot to bring any car tyre balance weights with me when I came out to my 'country home' this time...

I think you'll find thee is a ready supply just outside the front door... :wacko:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on March 16, 2025, 05:56:47 AMI think you'll find thee is a ready supply just outside the front door... :wacko:


Hehehe, very true, but driving afterwards is a bit bouncy.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit